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Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:34 pm
by Icedawg
Has anyone else experienced motivational issues trying to set up the first turn for a second PBEM? You're in the middle of a game and you want to start a second, but you've gotten spoiled by having everything nicely organized in your current game. Then, you look at that disorganized mess that is Turn 1 and you just feel depressed/overwhelmed.

I've been working off and on now for a week or so, and I just can't seem to keep up a sustained effort. The most I can do is maybe 45 minutes, then I shut down and play Mahjong, Panzer Corps and other mindless but instant-gratification games. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, how did you get past it?

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:38 pm
by Gaspote
I usually make a monster landing on west coast or Pearl Harbor against AI when this happen [:D]

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:45 pm
by Icedawg
I've done some similar things with the Head-to-Head setting. Send Force Z out to decimate some unprotected amphibious TFs and sit back and watch the carnage. Then, send Force Z towards Saigon and watch the Netties get some revenge. After that, you ask yourself why you just wasted the better part of 30 minutes watching combat replays that had very predictable results.

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:35 pm
by EHansen
I know it well.

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:11 pm
by pws1225
Psst! AFBs don't know squat about first turns!!

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:28 pm
by Jones944
As the game is asymptotically approaching it's final version, setting up a single first turn and saving for use in any future new game you play will become practical, though I think some people are doing it right now. Perhaps there will even be an online resource where you can download other people's first turns so that you can tweak what you want and hit send!

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:34 pm
by Icedawg
ORIGINAL: Jones944

As the game is asymptotically approaching it's final version, setting up a single first turn and saving for use in any future new game you play will become practical, though I think some people are doing it right now. Perhaps there will even be an online resource where you can download other people's first turns so that you can tweak what you want and hit send!

The official game may be reaching it's endpoint, but the mods keep coming. I've been playing DBB C, and they just put out a new version. I'm betting in six months, they'll have another.

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:40 pm
by Jones944
ORIGINAL: Icedawg

The official game may be reaching it's endpoint, but the mods keep coming. I've been playing DBB C, and they just put out a new version. I'm betting in six months, they'll have another.
True, but at some point the new mods will be coming out with reasonable first turn moves already built in, one can hope!

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:13 pm
by EHansen
ORIGINAL: pws1225

Psst! AFBs don't know squat about first turns!!

I have been trying to get the interest to set up a PBEM as Japan.

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:45 am
by Chickenboy
Pick away at it, Icedawg. A little bit at a time. It may take you 2 weeks to set it up to your satisfaction, but savor the effort. Dream about it. Think about it on the drive in to work. It helps.

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:25 am
by Miller
Plenty of beer makes it easier to stomach. And of course you can blame the inevitable errors and oversights on game mechanics[;)]

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:59 am
by Hanzberger
Just think it's not just the first turn you have to look forward to, it's the first month.

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:58 pm
by FeurerKrieg
ORIGINAL: pws1225

Psst! AFBs don't know squat about first turns!!

+1

If I start a second game... which I have been considering... I may do Allies since playing Allies is 'easy mode'.

I'm just kidding, all you AFBs, don't flame me!

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:54 pm
by offenseman
I wish I had more time Bob, I'd play you... Have to a real slow pace though.

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:56 pm
by offenseman
ORIGINAL: Hanzberger

Just think it's not just the first turn you have to look forward to, it's the first month.

And then the second wave of assaults begins and you have to get AS and supplies forward to support the octopus tentacles that extend from the results of the first wave.

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:15 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: Miller

Plenty of beer makes it easier to stomach. And of course you can blame the inevitable errors and oversights on game mechanics[;)]

And then it's just a matter of inertia!

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:26 pm
by Feltan
I guess, once again, I must be the odd man out. I really like the opening turns as the Allies. All those possibilities to upset the Japanese timetable. For me, it is the most enjoyable -- the late war steam roller is less enjoyable to command.

Regards,
Feltan

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:39 pm
by ny59giants
I take it your playing a non-historical first turn. If so, I break it down to multiple parts. Anything that is naval is done first. Save in a separate slot from the actual game file and run a turn against yourself to make sure you didn't screw anything up. Make correction as needed. Some players need to break it down even more than this. I do the same building on this now correct file with air, then economy (repairs and expansions), and finally ground movement. Yes it takes time, but my OCD-ness demands this effort. [:D]

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:46 pm
by kaleun
This game rewards the Monk in you.

RE: Motivational Difficulty Setting Up First Turn PBEM

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:18 am
by FeurerKrieg
ORIGINAL: offenseman

I wish I had more time Bob, I'd play you... Have to a real slow pace though.


In the past I have started games that are very slow paced at first and then when my 'main' game is slow, or even ends, that second game I can pick up the pace with. It works out well when someone else is in the same situation. So I'd be happy to discuss firing up a game to be played super slow (1 turn every weekish) until some day in the future when things get moving faster.