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I broke Pilot Training HI Costs - no longer being charged

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:15 pm
by Lokasenna
So as much as I'd love to not be charged HI for pilot training, I seem to be getting a freebie here against Bullwinkle.

Here's my Tracker info (I accidentally screwed up the database mid-April and had to restart it, so without loading all of the historical turns again I can't go back farther than May 1 for HI cost. Can do so later but this seems sufficient to demonstrate that there's a problem, although not exactly when it started).

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What I did:

After testing it in my AI game, and feeling that I will need the boost to make up for some blunders as well as what I perceive to be the "like attacking a rock wall" nature of my opponent, I decided I would clear out the top level of my flight schools to save a little bit on my pilot HI costs. This is a scenario 2 game, so they already start on the high side (at the time I was running a scenario 1 as Japan in tandem with this one, and its February '42 pilot costs were still 2/3 of what the December '41 Scen 2 pilot HI costs were).

At the end of March, I pulled all of my pilots from Replacements into General Reserve. Then I drew some pilots from the top level of my flight schools without touching the second level - my reasoning was that the top level didn't have terrible Exp levels (27-28) and it was acceptable to train pilots from that level instead of 40 Exp, while training from the second-highest School Level (17-18) was not worth it. I would rather pay the HI to get them to 27-28. So this was looking to save me ~6-7k per month for now, in return for a crapload of clicking on my end.

At the end of April, I emptied the top "quartile" of the pilot schools.

At the end of May, I only emptied the top quartile of one of the services but not the other.


I see this in the beta patch notes for 1123, from 20/01/2013:
"Pilot training HI expenditure not set in some cases"

Well, we started the game under 1123r or something like that, in early September 2013. I was getting charged HI for the first several months of the war. In March, I have written that I was charged -12361 HI.

RE: I broke Pilot Training HI Costs - no longer being charged

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:16 pm
by Lokasenna
Screenshot of the in-game pilot situation, so that my words make sense up above. This is from 5/31.

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RE: I broke Pilot Training HI Costs - no longer being charged

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:16 pm
by Lokasenna
Save file from 5/31/42.

RE: I broke Pilot Training HI Costs - no longer being charged

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:17 pm
by Lokasenna
Save file from 6/1/42.

RE: I broke Pilot Training HI Costs - no longer being charged

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:19 pm
by Lokasenna
Did I break something in the save file - some boolean value or something?

In an AI game, which I started under 1108r9 (latest official), I did the same thing and it still charged me based on the total still in pilot school. Wondering if there is some divide by 0 error check or something that I'm running afoul of. Really can't figure out why it wouldn't charge me.

RE: I broke Pilot Training HI Costs - no longer being charged

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:25 pm
by Gaspote
Only Michaelm have the answer, you should ask him directly in the beta topic

RE: I broke Pilot Training HI Costs - no longer being charged

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:11 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: Gaspote

Only Michaelm have the answer, you should ask him directly in the beta topic

I'm hoping he pops his head in here [:)]. There was no beta change in between our in-game March and in-game May. We did upgrade between May and June to the latest. I really think it's something in my save file that's causing the HI cost calculation to bail out before charging me.

RE: I broke Pilot Training HI Costs - no longer being charged

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:32 pm
by Symon
Personally, I hope you broke it so badly it cannot be fixed, and michaelm will be forced to expunge it completely [:D] Just saying [8D]

RE: I broke Pilot Training HI Costs - no longer being charged

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:43 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: Symon

Personally, I hope you broke it so badly it cannot be fixed, and michaelm will be forced to expunge it completely [:D] Just saying [8D]

Expunge what, my VP record against Bullwinkle?! I would probably cry [:(].

RE: I broke Pilot Training HI Costs - no longer being charged

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:53 am
by Lokasenna
Hi Michael -

Attached is my mid-turn save [:)].