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Maneuver speed and TF
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:31 am
by Yaab
I am unsure how maneuver ratings for ships are used in combat situations.
In a surface combat TF, when ships duel with enemy ships, do ships maneuver individually or as a group?
If is a group, do they move at the maneuver rating of the least maneuverable ship i.e. 6 DDs and 1 CA move at the maneuver rating of the CA?
And if a TF is attacked by an air raid, do ships in the TF maneuver as group or individually? Aircraft attack individual ship, so I guess each ship uses each own maneuver rating, but I am not 100% sure about this.
RE: Maneuver speed and TF
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:23 am
by LoBaron
ORIGINAL: Yaab
I am unsure how maneuver ratings for ships are used in combat situations.
In a surface combat TF, when ships duel with enemy ships, do ships maneuver individually or as a group?
The mvr rating/speed of the individual ship is used in terms of evading hits for example. But as soon as a specific action affects the whole TF, such as closing the distace to the enemy TF, or trying to get out of range, the speed of the slowest ship counts (in relation to the slowest ship of the enemy TF, and of course including a couple of other factors).
If is a group, do they move at the maneuver rating of the least maneuverable ship i.e. 6 DDs and 1 CA move at the maneuver rating of the CA?
No, see answer above.
And if a TF is attacked by an air raid, do ships in the TF maneuver as group or individually? Aircraft attack individual ship, so I guess each ship uses each own maneuver rating, but I am not 100% sure about this.
In terms of hit evasion, as in surface combat, the individual ship attributes are the ones that matter.
RE: Maneuver speed and TF
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:43 pm
by Numdydar
Of course as the slower ships get sunk, the TF can move faster so has a better chance to get away [:)]
RE: Maneuver speed and TF
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:38 pm
by Bane_MatrixForum
ORIGINAL: Numdydar
Of course as the slower ships get sunk, the TF can move faster so has a better chance to get away [:)]
Some silver lining [:'(]
RE: Maneuver speed and TF
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:40 pm
by pontiouspilot
For the uninitiated, the upshot of the above is to be very careful how TFs are constituted. There are many threads here harping on that!!!
RE: Maneuver speed and TF
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:02 am
by Yaab
@LoBaron
Thank you for the explanation. Saving it in my WITP:AE reference folder.
Now, you slow and clumsy ships, begone from my TFs!
RE: Maneuver speed and TF
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:37 am
by dr.hal
And don't feel bad if you get it wrong... even the experts get it wrong, look at the battle of Dogger Bank.... as Hipper said: "ooops".....
RE: Maneuver speed and TF
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:26 pm
by topeverest
Don't forget the fact that commander ratings, fuel, ammo, damage, weather, and air superiority all may determine how a battle progresses and if one side presses the attack. Speed, while important, is by far not the only factor.
RE: Maneuver speed and TF
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:05 am
by LoBaron
ORIGINAL: Bane
ORIGINAL: Numdydar
Of course as the slower ships get sunk, the TF can move faster so has a better chance to get away [:)]
Some silver lining [:'(]
Works best for DDs escorting ´phibs... [;)]
RE: Maneuver speed and TF
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:10 am
by dr.hal
ORIGINAL: topeverest
Speed, while important, is by far not the only factor.
It is certainly important if you want to END a battle!