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Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:33 am
by mel24
I have downloaded DB3000 and CWDB images plus DB3000 and CWDB descriptions but this does not appear to have had any affect in the game
Can any body help me with this?

RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:38 am
by MirabelleBenou
Where do you extract the files ?

RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:42 am
by mel24
DB3000 Images to Command\DB\Images\DB3000
CWDB Images to Command\DB\Images\CWDB
DB3000 AND CWDB Descriptions to Command\DB\Descriptions\DB3000

RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:53 am
by SSN754planker
the pictures and descriptions only show up in the DB viewer. And even tho a lot of entries have pictures, there are still many entries which do not.

Try checking the United States entries.

RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:53 pm
by CV60
And the description files are relatively few in number. That's my next project after getting the image files expanded a bit more.
the pictures and descriptions only show up in the DB viewer. And even tho a lot of entries have pictures, there are still many entries which do not. Try checking the United States entries.



RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:45 pm
by mel24
Thanks for the help.

RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:02 am
by mel24
I can find no images in the data base viewer within the game although they do appear in the DB file when opened seperateley
Any ideas?

RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:55 pm
by CV60
Can you post your complete file path for the images, all the way to the C drive?
I can find no images in the data base viewer within the game although they do appear in the DB file when opened seperateley Any ideas?





RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:52 am
by mel24
Local disk C Matrix Games Command DB Images DB3000

RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:05 pm
by CV60
Looks like you have the right path. I don't know that this is the problem, but how are your permissions set for the file? Mine are set at Authenticated Users, and allow for modify, read & execut, list folder contents, read and write (go to Properties, then check the security tab).
Local disk C Matrix Games Command DB Images DB3000

RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:28 am
by mel24
My permissions are set the same.

RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:22 am
by CV60
Hmm. I hate to say it, but I have no idea. It sounds like you are set up okay. I don't think I've ever heard of the problem you are describing. One more thing you can try for troubleshooting, if you have the description files downloaded. Go to the Soviet Kirov database entry (Ship_399). In the database viewer, do you see the following text in the description:

OVERVIEW: The KIROV class CGN is a 2 shaft, combination nuclear and steam powered (CONAS), multi-role battlecruiser.

DETAILS: The KIROV class CGN is the largest non-carrier warship built since the end of World War II. It has a combination steam and nuclear plant, and is capable of being propelled by either, or both plants. A well-balanced ship, it was the first Soviet design to be able to effectively defend a task force against aircraft. This multi-role capability made it useful in controling sea areas near the Soviet Union to both protect Soviet SSBN deployment areas and protect Soviet territory. The class also was equipped with a large C3I suite, making it a likely flagship.
In June 2013, Russia announced plans to modernize and return to service the Admiral Nakhimov.

NOTES: Displacement: 24,300 tons standard
Speed: 32 knts
Range:
Complement: 800 (approximate)
In Commission: 1980-to date
Completed: 4

SOURCES: Polmar, Norman, and Siegfried Breyer. Guide to the Soviet Navy. Annapolis, Md: Naval Institute Press, 1983, 133-5 ;
http://www.janes.com/article/22829/russ ... ce-by-2018


If you don't see this text, then that indicates to me that somehow you have a path problem. If you do see the text, then that pretty much rules out a path problem.

One last possibility: have you re-installed the game? If you do so, continue to install it to your default folder. Possibly something didn't install properly.
One other point: You can use:

http://baloogancampaign.com/command-doc ... on/db3000/
and
http://baloogancampaign.com/command-documentation/cwdb/

to view the images along with database entries from outside the Command program.
My permissions are set the same.

RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:06 pm
by mel24
This does not appear in my database viewer Only 165 Kirov cruiser

RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:35 pm
by CV60
What build are you currently using? Go to the Help/About Command. I'm curious, because Ship_165 should be the DE 45 Yarra class.
One other possibility-You are looking in the CWDB database for DB 3000 images. The game automatically knows that post-1979 games are DB3000, and pre-1979 games are CWDB. Make sure your DB 3000 images are in the DB/Images/DB3000 folder and the CWDB images are in the DB/Images/CWDB folder.
This does not appear in my database viewer Only 165 Kirov cruiser

RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:03 pm
by $trummer
Strange, I'm not seeing any pictures in the DB viewer either, only the stock descriptions. I'm sure I unzipped them all to the right locations (an E drive in my case); I can see them all there in Windows 8.1 but not in the game yet.

RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:22 pm
by $trummer
...Wait, fixed it. Maybe this is the OP's issue too: when unzipping these folders using WinRAR, the program creates a folder within the destination folder, that's why the CMANO cannot see the files. You have to strip out the photos and bring them up a level, as it were, getting rid of the redundant folder.

Does anyone know how I can verify that the file descriptions are being read correctly? I did the same thing with those files as I did with the photos but I am not sure how to verify their presence in the game.

RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:27 pm
by CV60
That is correct, the images must be in the Command/DB/Images/CWDB or Command/DB/Images/DB3000 folder. The images can not be in any other lower-level folder. Likewise, the description files must be in the Command/DB/Descriptions/CWDB or Command/DB/Descriptions/DB3000 folder. Thery can not be in any lower level folder. There aren't many description files written yet. To confirm that you are placing them in the right folder, look at the Soviet Kirov battlecruiser in the DB3000 database (Ship_399). In the database viewer, do you see the following text in the description. If you do, the DB3000 description files are correctly loaded:
OVERVIEW: The KIROV class CGN is a 2 shaft, combination nuclear and steam powered (CONAS), multi-role battlecruiser.

DETAILS: The KIROV class CGN is the largest non-carrier warship built since the end of World War II. It has a combination steam and nuclear plant, and is capable of being propelled by either, or both plants. A well-balanced ship, it was the first Soviet design to be able to effectively defend a task force against aircraft. This multi-role capability made it useful in controling sea areas near the Soviet Union to both protect Soviet SSBN deployment areas and protect Soviet territory. The class also was equipped with a large C3I suite, making it a likely flagship.
In June 2013, Russia announced plans to modernize and return to service the Admiral Nakhimov.

NOTES: Displacement: 24,300 tons standard
Speed: 32 knts
Range:
Complement: 800 (approximate)
In Commission: 1980-to date
Completed: 4

SOURCES: Polmar, Norman, and Siegfried Breyer. Guide to the Soviet Navy. Annapolis, Md: Naval Institute Press, 1983, 133-5 ;
http://www.janes.com/article/22829/russ ... ce-by-2018

...Wait, fixed it. Maybe this is the OP's issue too: when unzipping these folders using WinRAR, the program creates a folder within the destination folder, that's why the CMANO cannot see the files. You have to strip out the photos and bring them up a level, as it were, getting rid of the redundant folder. Does anyone know how I can verify that the file descriptions are being read correctly? I did the same thing with those files as I did with the photos but I am not sure how to verify their presence in the game.

RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:21 am
by mel24
Re installed the game and downloaded the images again. Build is 507.Ship 399 now shows the right ship RKR Kirov 507 nuclear powered guided missile boat but the text you quoted is not there.
Downloaded data with Win Zip.
Still no images in the game but they do appear in DB3000.

RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:24 am
by mel24
Just noticed this ship also appears in the data base viewer as no 153!

RE: Images and descriptions of units

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:18 am
by CV60
Can you do me a favor-It sounds like you have the correct version. Look at the screenshot from my computer. I have the folder the images are in open, and you can see the path (the green line, which in my case reads Computer/C/Matrix Games/Test-Command/DB/Images/DB3000. I also have the database viewer open, so you can see the image and description file of Ship_399 Kirov.
Can you take a similar screenshot of your computer? Regarding the Kirov showing up as both Ship_153 and Ship_399- that is because the two database entries are for different versions of the vessel. One is from 1980, and the other is the Kirov as equipped from 1984-1991.
Just noticed this ship also appears in the data base viewer as no 153!

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