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ZPU-4, ZSU-57-2, 57mm S-60

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:10 am
by WABAC
It was nice to find the silhouettes for those items in the common folder. So I thought I might as well ask if the numbers had already been worked out for those weapons. Or is it just the pictures?

If not, I suppose I can fake something from the information in the Worldwide Equipment Guide. But it would be nice to know if there was some sort of formula I could plug the numbers into.

As long as I am asking questions [:D]

The number following the gun sometimes looks like an actual count of rounds, as with the tank guns. But sometimes the numbers for other types of weapons look more like a count of how many seconds the ammunition load would last. I am thinking of the various automatic weapons used by flying machines or against flying machines because they all tend to be the same or very close. But I guess my question applies to all of the automatic weapons. Rounds or seconds?

RE: ZPU-4, ZSU-57-2, 57mm S-60

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:06 pm
by CapnDarwin
Here's the info. Not 100% validated yet since it is from the Polish WIP.

SUTag Name PICID Description SU Type 1st Year Avail Last Year Avail Crew Mobility Speed Int Capacity Ext Capacity FC/RF Stab Sensor List Weapon List PF Specials CompID
PL63 ZPU-4 AAMG ZPU4.bmp Towed Flak Gun FLAK 1955 1996 4 Leg 1 0 -1 1 0 STR AAA7*65, SA2*60, EXP1*4 0 AD, NBC FLAK
PL64 57mm AAG 57mm AAG.bmp Towed Flak Gun FLAK 1950 2004 7 None 0 0 -1 3 0 STR AAA13*40, SA5*60, EXP1*7 0 AD, NBC FLAK
PL149 ZSU-57-2 ZSU57.bmp Self Propelled Flak SPFLAK 1959 1986 6 Track 50 0 0 3 0 STR AAA12*50 1 AD SPFLAK

updated the zsu57-2 - PF=1, SPD = 50, No IR

Hope that is workable. Better excel file attached.


RE: ZPU-4, ZSU-57-2, 57mm S-60

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:11 pm
by CapnDarwin
Doh! I'll have to grab the associated weapons later today after an event I'm going to shortly.

RE: ZPU-4, ZSU-57-2, 57mm S-60

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:11 pm
by WABAC
Thanks again Capn. Looking forward to the gun data.

[&o]

(edit)BTW. From what I read in the WWW Guide I have knocked down the ZSU-57-2 for no infra-red and lighter armor value of 1 if that equals 15mm of armor.

RE: ZPU-4, ZSU-57-2, 57mm S-60

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:58 pm
by CapnDarwin
Yep, need to knock the ZSU-57-2 down to 1. Hence the still needs a validation cleanup.

RE: ZPU-4, ZSU-57-2, 57mm S-60

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:28 pm
by CapnDarwin
Revamped excel info with revised gun data.

RE: ZPU-4, ZSU-57-2, 57mm S-60

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:53 am
by WABAC
Thanks for the numbers Capn. Much appreciated.

While you are validating your data you might want to look at the 85mm gun you have in your inventory. The one you have is a post WWII design based on a necked down 100mm round. It was used in the ASU-85 and D-48, but not the T-34/85. Probably not much difference in the modern HEAT rounds, but there might be some for the AP types dependant on velocity.

Projectiles were much more boring in the era I am working on. [>:] So I will be toning down the AP value of the 57mm if I can find the data. Otherwise I will make it up.