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How to gain morale / experience ?

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 3:36 am
by HOTEC
Morale has no change after battle won. How many battles need to be won to gain 1 morale and 1 experience?
Why does the construction value increase after battle?

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RE: How to gain morale / experience ?

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:50 pm
by Ketza
What version are you using? Those are some nice Rumanians you have there.

RE: How to gain morale / experience ?

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 10:01 pm
by HOTEC
It is 1.07.15 version.

RE: How to gain morale / experience ?

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 11:36 pm
by jwolf
ORIGINAL: Ketza

What version are you using? Those are some nice Rumanians you have there.

I'm wondering if he has an advantage with morale in the settings. I've never seen Rumanians anywhere near that high in either morale or CV (and I suppose they go together). He's got them at a level comparable to typical German infantry divisions at that point in the game. Amazing.

RE: How to gain morale / experience ?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 5:53 am
by HOTEC
Has any idea how many battles to be won for 1 morale or/and 1 experience earned?

RE: How to gain morale / experience ?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 6:01 am
by morvael
It's not that easy. Morale can be gained/lost immediately after combat and also during logistics phase due to many reasons. Experience accumulated during turn is not added immediately, but is transformed into permanent experience during logistics phase. There are 5 or 6 separate rules which may cause experience gain. The simples one is that you get 1 exp if it's below morale, but the others are more complicated and involve random factors.

RE: How to gain morale / experience ?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 6:15 am
by Denniss
These units are way above national morale so further morale gains would be rare. Probably the same for Experience.

RE: How to gain morale / experience ?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 12:07 pm
by HOTEC
Any idea on the increase of construction value?

RE: How to gain morale / experience ?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 12:49 pm
by RedLancer
Manual Paragraph 15.3.2.1 may help

RE: How to gain morale / experience ?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 1:53 pm
by juret
u need to make more threads and not read the manual

RE: How to gain morale / experience ?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 3:27 pm
by Oberst_Klink
ORIGINAL: juret

u need to make more threads and not read the manual
Not necessarily... there's a pdf with most threads:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/562 ... tof.V3.pdf

Composed by governato I may add.

Klink, Oberst

RE: How to gain morale / experience ?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 4:25 pm
by jzardos
This is clearly a custom campaign with adjusted start values for Rom experience and morale. Not way in heck that Rom units can be that high on morale. In 41 campaign Rom units start around 40 morale and even less experience. Unless massive changes in last version for starting Rom value? Would take on average hundreds of wins to increase Rom Morale by 20-30 points. Also, winning doesn't automatically give you a morale boost unless below national avg, but losing a battle does drop morale.

Never seen these values before in all of play WitE over many years.

RE: How to gain morale / experience ?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 4:27 pm
by jzardos
Lol, even the German units look crazy unrealaistic, He used editor to get these high CV and morale values for axis troops. IMO way too high, if playing AI it's too easy. Not even a challenge,

RE: How to gain morale / experience ?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 4:59 pm
by RedLancer
ORIGINAL: jzardos

Lol, even the German units look crazy unrealaistic, He used editor to get these high CV and morale values for axis troops. IMO way too high, if playing AI it's too easy. Not even a challenge,

I appreciate the Kobayashi Maru approach - it's how I got into scenario design. If at first you don't succeed - Cheat! Then I learned that there is even more fun in writing scenarios for other people.

RE: How to gain morale / experience ?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 7:51 am
by HOTEC
How much more need to be increased?

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RE: How to gain morale / experience ?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 1:06 pm
by DorianGray
This is interesting. If this is accurate (and given the previous inflated Axis CVs) it seems to imply that the bonus settings are getting applied to the German Player instead of the Soviet Player?

Hmmm...

RE: How to gain morale / experience ?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 2:37 pm
by HOTEC
Would this following assumption correct?

org. Sov CV / org. Ger CV = (org. Sov CV x Bonus) / inflated Ger CV