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5.3 humans start with hive mind

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:59 am
by Lonck
two games now i've seen human empires start with hive mind. In the race files hive mind should be in the disallowed governments afaik.

RE: 5.3 humans start with hive mind

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:18 pm
by necaradan666
haha, yeah I saw that too. it was freaky.

RE: 5.3 humans start with hive mind

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:54 pm
by Nanaki
I have had humans start with Technocracy as well.

RE: 5.3 humans start with hive mind

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:58 am
by elliotg
Hi Lonck

I'm unable to reproduce this problem. Is this using the default theme?

Can you please describe your game startup settings when this occurs? Is there a way to reliably repeat the problem?

Thanks
Elliot

RE: 5.3 humans start with hive mind

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:32 am
by Lucian
ORIGINAL: Nanaki

I have had humans start with Technocracy as well.

Yep I had humans with Technocracy in my last game too, default theme, no mods.

RE: 5.3 humans start with hive mind

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:44 am
by Nanaki
ORIGINAL: elliotg

Hi Lonck

I'm unable to reproduce this problem. Is this using the default theme?

Can you please describe your game startup settings when this occurs? Is there a way to reliably repeat the problem?

Default Theme, Game startup settings are fairly mundane, I even use the 'random empire' option at the top instead of defining each empire individually. It seems like Humans can, occasionally, get Technocracy or Hive Mind as their random government pick. It is possible that this happens with other races with random government as well.

RE: 5.3 humans start with hive mind

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:16 pm
by Lonck
the problem could be because in their race files humans are allowed to pick that government. I change race files to disallow utopia and hive mind and they don't start with that. Last game they picked despotism this happens with 5.4 also.

RE: 5.3 humans start with hive mind

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:02 pm
by Nanaki
That is not the issue, those governments are flagged as race specific which means they should not be picked unless the race has that government defined as its special government, which humans do not.

RE: 5.3 humans start with hive mind

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:50 pm
by OpFubar
I have also seen humans with hive mind governments, and also i have seen other civilizations start with way of the ancients or way of darkness. Having those super government types at the start with the story lines disabled seems a bit off. At least, i don't think you can discover the super government types in ruins without the story lines activated.

RE: 5.3 humans start with hive mind

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:18 pm
by Nanaki
ORIGINAL: OpFubar

I have also seen humans with hive mind governments, and also i have seen other civilizations start with way of the ancients or way of darkness. Having those super government types at the start with the story lines disabled seems a bit off. At least, i don't think you can discover the super government types in ruins without the story lines activated.

The storylines have nothing to do with the super governments, you can get the super governments from just exploring the right ruins.