Running out of Special Arty Ammo
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:58 pm
When an FA unit runs out of non-HE ammo, the player is notified following the fire mission that consumed the last of that ammo type and the firing unit goes into On Call status.
If there is another mission of that type already ordered, the firing unit attempts to execute it, even though it is in On Call status (i.e. the order stands, even though it is known there is no ammo for the mission and the unit is no longer in Barrage state). When it executes the order, it result in a second out of ammo message in the TOC log. There is no On Call order in the TOC log.
This behavior occurs for smoke ICM, and FASCAM
Seems to me that:
1. Once a firing unit runs out of that ammo, it should immediately cancel the remaining missions of that type.
2. A commander should know how much ammo of each type is on hand. Units track that at all levels and things like FASCAM, ICM, RAP, and ATACMS (Copperhead) get special and don't require the services of the chaplain for each fire mission.
From TOC log:
>08:00 New order: FA 1 - Barrage (Minelet Deployment) on hex 708
>08:00 Activity resolution for the period starting 0800 Aug 11.
>08:03 FA 1 dropping minelet barrage on location 0708...
>08:03 Team Yankee minelet barrage is falling at location 0708...
>08:03 FA 1 has run out of FASCAM ammo.
>08:03 New order: FA 1 - Barrage (Minelet Deployment) on hex 808
>08:04 New order: 3d Co - Screen in 1306
>08:04 SitRep - 3d Co with screen orders has 10 x T-80B1 in hex 1306 at 98% readiness with 100% ammo and 99% morale. 0 enemy(s) spotted.
>08:05 New order: 1st Co - Screen in 1205
>08:05 SitRep - 1st Co with screen orders has 10 x T-80B1 in hex 1205 at 98% readiness with 100% ammo and 99% morale. 0 enemy(s) spotted.
>08:05 New order: 2d Co - Screen in 1306
>08:05 SitRep - 2d Co with screen orders has 10 x T-80B1 in hex 1306 at 98% readiness with 99% ammo and 99% morale. 0 enemy(s) spotted.
>08:05 New order: BHQ Bn HQ - Screen in 1204
>08:05 SitRep - BHQ Bn HQ with screen orders has 1 x T-80B1 and 2 x BMP-Ksh in hex 1204 at 82% readiness with 96% ammo and 65% morale. 0 enemy(s) spotted.
>08:06 FA 1 out of fascam ammo...
>08:15 New order: 3d Co - Move - Deliberate from 1306 to 1307
>08:15 New order: 2d Co - Move - Deliberate from 1306 to 1307
>08:15 New order: 1st Co - Move - Deliberate from 1205 to 1306
>08:19 New order: FA 1 - Barrage (Smoke Screen) on hex 1715
>08:19 Activity resolution for the period starting 0819 Aug 11.
Game save attached
If there is another mission of that type already ordered, the firing unit attempts to execute it, even though it is in On Call status (i.e. the order stands, even though it is known there is no ammo for the mission and the unit is no longer in Barrage state). When it executes the order, it result in a second out of ammo message in the TOC log. There is no On Call order in the TOC log.
This behavior occurs for smoke ICM, and FASCAM
Seems to me that:
1. Once a firing unit runs out of that ammo, it should immediately cancel the remaining missions of that type.
2. A commander should know how much ammo of each type is on hand. Units track that at all levels and things like FASCAM, ICM, RAP, and ATACMS (Copperhead) get special and don't require the services of the chaplain for each fire mission.
From TOC log:
>08:00 New order: FA 1 - Barrage (Minelet Deployment) on hex 708
>08:00 Activity resolution for the period starting 0800 Aug 11.
>08:03 FA 1 dropping minelet barrage on location 0708...
>08:03 Team Yankee minelet barrage is falling at location 0708...
>08:03 FA 1 has run out of FASCAM ammo.
>08:03 New order: FA 1 - Barrage (Minelet Deployment) on hex 808
>08:04 New order: 3d Co - Screen in 1306
>08:04 SitRep - 3d Co with screen orders has 10 x T-80B1 in hex 1306 at 98% readiness with 100% ammo and 99% morale. 0 enemy(s) spotted.
>08:05 New order: 1st Co - Screen in 1205
>08:05 SitRep - 1st Co with screen orders has 10 x T-80B1 in hex 1205 at 98% readiness with 100% ammo and 99% morale. 0 enemy(s) spotted.
>08:05 New order: 2d Co - Screen in 1306
>08:05 SitRep - 2d Co with screen orders has 10 x T-80B1 in hex 1306 at 98% readiness with 99% ammo and 99% morale. 0 enemy(s) spotted.
>08:05 New order: BHQ Bn HQ - Screen in 1204
>08:05 SitRep - BHQ Bn HQ with screen orders has 1 x T-80B1 and 2 x BMP-Ksh in hex 1204 at 82% readiness with 96% ammo and 65% morale. 0 enemy(s) spotted.
>08:06 FA 1 out of fascam ammo...
>08:15 New order: 3d Co - Move - Deliberate from 1306 to 1307
>08:15 New order: 2d Co - Move - Deliberate from 1306 to 1307
>08:15 New order: 1st Co - Move - Deliberate from 1205 to 1306
>08:19 New order: FA 1 - Barrage (Smoke Screen) on hex 1715
>08:19 Activity resolution for the period starting 0819 Aug 11.
Game save attached