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Vichy related territorials do not go to new owner as they should! Vichy claims them back!

Here a screenshot where Italy owns Marocco, Tunisia and Algeria, but alas the Territorials are in the Vichy Force Pool even if they should be Italian!

I have seen games posted here that have had both German and Italian North African Territorials. Maybe they are showing in the pool but can't be built. Or maybe Vichy was just declared this same turn as production is being done (more likely I think). Production is before conquest so it definitely can happen where a power builds a Territorial (due to random choice) for a territory that is about to change hands and essentially "gifts" it to the conqueror.

Cohen, from the screenshot you are showing, I can only see one territorial that could be from one of the minors that you comment, the 3-3 "MCO" (Morocco?), all the rest seem to belong to sub-saharan Africa or Syria.

Can you check somehow that that unit is from Morocco? and can you check the Italian Terr pool?

Just sayin'

I see no bug here. None of the Terr in the picture above show a Territorial from Morocco, Algeria nor Tunisia. The MCO Terr is from Middle Congo. The Territorial from Morocco is labelled MAR. See attached picture.

Gotcha! [:)]

MCO is Middle Congo.

Morocco is MAR. (Everyone spells Morocco with an 'A', right? [:)])

ORIGINAL: Courtenay

MCO is Middle Congo.

Morocco is MAR. (Everyone spells Morocco with an 'A', right? [:)])

Of course we do over here... Marokko...

ORIGINAL: Centuur

ORIGINAL: Courtenay

MCO is Middle Congo.

Morocco is MAR. (Everyone spells Morocco with an 'A', right? [:)])

Of course we do over here... Marokko...

We call it Marruecos.

not sure why the counters need those 3 letter abbreviations? the program could use them internally and the players could see the regular text as part of the image from the cardboard counters. not a good change.

I've checked the Italian Force Pool and there are no Territorials for Tunisia, Algeria and Marocco.

Actually - I've just found them in the German Force Pool.
Germany instated Vichy, but Italy conquered the territories before Vichy was instated. Is that correct though that Germany can produce them instead than Italy?

Maybe they are in the conquered pool?

Could you post a save here? It might help with fixing the bug.

Save inc!

ORIGINAL: Cohen

Save inc!

Thank you.

Somehow the Algerian, Moroccan and Tunisian Terr had entered the German force pool. French Somaliland Terr is also there although it should also be a Italian unit. The New Caledonian Terr is there as well but it should actually be there.

But what have me totally baffled and mystified is that there are two Ethiopian Terr in the German Force pool. And Ethiopia is still Italian controlled so how the ¤%¤#¤ have they become German units!!!

The formerly French Terr could be because of some bug during Vichy creation where they, wrongly, get placed in the German Force Pool. But Ethiopia! [X(]

It's the little-known Ethiopian Nazis, who formed after Hitler's hushed-up visit there.

True story. [;)]