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The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:38 pm
by JMarkus
Hi, I am trying to disembark from England to France a MOT unit using the Queens.The MOT unit is loaded.
Gort-HQ (2) is present in the french coast since thelast impulse.

Are they something wrong? I can not disembark in France..
Gort is alone against the Germans in the belgium border.
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RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:41 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: JMarkus

Hi, I am trying to disembark from England to France a MOT unit using the Queens.The MOT unit is loaded.
Gort-HQ (2) is present in the french coast since thelast impulse.

Are they something wrong? I can not disembark in France..
Gort is alone against the Germans in the belgium border.
[&:]
warspite1

How did the unit get picked up? Also are both the TRS and the unit organised?

Also are you playing with AMPH option? Are you trying to disembark in a non-port hex or in the hex WITH Gort?

RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:47 pm
by Orm
Could you post a screenshot or a save so we can easier see the reason?

RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:50 pm
by JMarkus
Gort has disembarked with a TRS in a Port (minor port Calais). We are playing with AMPH option but in this case is the beginning of the french front with the germans in Belgium.
The other unit (MOT) is embarked with the Queens.

Each unit tranported from port to port... I would to do the same with the second unit in any french port...

RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:52 pm
by Orm
You have no other CW unit in France?

You are not out of CW land moves?

RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:55 pm
by JMarkus
No, only Gort is present in France.. and playing the combined choice.

RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:56 pm
by Orm
Could it be possible that CW picked a combined impulse and you are out of land moves?

RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:00 pm
by JMarkus
I got 3 lands moves... and i am playing during the naval fase with 2 movs at the beginning of the impulse.

RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:01 pm
by Ur_Vile_WEdge
If you're trying to go directly from port to port, that's a naval move, not a land move. Did you do 2 other naval moves?

RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:02 pm
by JMarkus
I think that disembarking directly to a port is not a land mouvement...

RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:02 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: JMarkus

I got 3 lands moves... and i am playing during the naval fase with 2 movs at the beginning of the impulse.
warspite1

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RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:03 pm
by JMarkus
Thats exactly what i try to do.. from port to port in the same sea zone.

RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:10 pm
by Courtenay
The foreign troop commitment rules state that you can only have HQs and as many other CW units as the total CW HQ reorganization value in France. In this case, Gort has a reorganization value of two. You have moved him into France on a TRS, so the TRS is also in France. This leaves one unit that can move into France. It sounds to me that you are trying to move a land unit and the Queen into France using a naval move. This is two units, and does not work. The better way for the CW to get land units to France is to move them into the North Sea, and to disembark them from there.

"Debark" is a technical term in WiF -- it means to take a land unit that is aboard a transport at sea and move it to a coastal hex. Sailing a unit on a TRS into a port is unloading, which is a different thing. (Debarking, for example, uses a land move; unloading does not. Debarking happens in the Debark step, unloading in the naval movement step. Etc., etc.)

RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:11 pm
by JMarkus
But its quite strange.. i can disembark in Gibraltar perfectly

RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:14 pm
by composer99
Gibraltar has no naval unit stacking limit and, being a CW-controlled hex (I assume), no foreign troop commitment limit for CW units, so I'm not sure what that has to do with problems shipping units into France?

RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:15 pm
by JMarkus
So the TRS in the port in Calais is the second unit under Gorts limits.. I undestood many thanks. I have to debark from the sea the next time.

RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:16 pm
by Ur_Vile_WEdge
Or move the TRS out.

RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:16 pm
by Ur_Vile_WEdge
Or move the TRS out.

RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:16 pm
by Ur_Vile_WEdge
Or move the TRS out.

RE: The Queens and disembarking

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:23 pm
by warspite1
Why do you have to move the TRS out three times - surely once will be enough? [:D]