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Advice on how to ID a sub

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:03 pm
by Jdegani
Does anyone have advice on how best to identify a submerged sub? I'm playing through Operation Brass Drum and detected a sub. I need to determine whether it's an Iranian diesel sub (in which case I'll fire on it) or a Russian sub (in which case I'll track it but try not to anger Mr. Putin). Any suggestions? I've got a good lock on her position with passive sonobuoys dropped nearby but an ID seems much harder to get.

Thanks!

RE: Advice on how to ID a sub

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:54 pm
by Sardaukar
It'll take a while, do you have a helicopter with dipping sonar?

RE: Advice on how to ID a sub

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:04 pm
by Jdegani
Yes. I've been mostly using sonobuoys but dipping sonar is available. Is that better for being able to get an ID?

RE: Advice on how to ID a sub

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:06 pm
by Sardaukar
ORIGINAL: Jdegani

Yes. I've been mostly using sonobuoys but dipping sonar is available. Is that better for being able to get an ID?

I think so, give it a try.

RE: Advice on how to ID a sub

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:11 pm
by scottb613
Hi Folks,

Yeah - that could prove a little tricky as they both operate Kilo class submarines - while identifying a Kilo isn't too hard once you pick them up - identifying a unique hull to identify nationality could take some work...

Regards,
Scott

RE: Advice on how to ID a sub

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:30 pm
by Jdegani
Thanks for the advice! I'm pretty amazed it's even possible (in real life). Must take a lot of painstaking listening to make it happen. I'll just keep tracking and listening and see if I can eventually get an ID.

RE: Advice on how to ID a sub

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:38 pm
by Luidzi
If you need an ID ASAP, there is another possibility - dropping a torpedo in the vicinity, but far enough that its seeker won't lock on. Submarine will go deep and flank upon detection and with its greatly increaced noise you should get ID very quickly if zou have sonobuoys nearby. Drawbacks include the need for that torpedo for an actual engagement, possible hostility from that sub, or, if it's something antique with bad passive sensors, it may not even detect the torpedo and won't react altogether.

RE: Advice on how to ID a sub

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:08 pm
by Korvar
ORIGINAL: Luidzi
If you need an ID ASAP, there is another possibility - dropping a torpedo in the vicinity, but far enough that its seeker won't lock on. Submarine will go deep and flank upon detection and with its greatly increaced noise you should get ID very quickly if zou have sonobuoys nearby.

I like it - drop a hot potato in its pants to see how it dances.

RE: Advice on how to ID a sub

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:09 pm
by jarraya
ORIGINAL: Korvar

ORIGINAL: Luidzi
If you need an ID ASAP, there is another possibility - dropping a torpedo in the vicinity, but far enough that its seeker won't lock on. Submarine will go deep and flank upon detection and with its greatly increaced noise you should get ID very quickly if zou have sonobuoys nearby.

I like it - drop a hot potato in its pants to see how it dances.

Which you would never actually do in real life unless of course you wanted to start a war.....

RE: Advice on how to ID a sub

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:10 pm
by sandy61
Probably not what you are trying to find out, but if you sink it, it will definitely get identified. [:D]

RE: Advice on how to ID a sub

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:40 am
by Ocel0t
Thanks for the tips, I'll also be giving these tips a try!