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What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:14 pm
by aaatoysandmore
Since there are a lot of Barbarossa type games out there now which one comes closest to being like the Avalon Hill Stalingrad game whereby you can setup the units on the front's line any way you want to and don't have to follow a set setup order or path to Moscow, Leningrad or Stalingrad? So, if I want to put all my tank divisions in one army group I can. [:)] I always felt this was the way to take Moscow or Stalingrad to put the bulk of tanks in one army instead of splitting them up. I want to see what would happen if I did this in Army group South, the one that marched on Stalingrad. Of course there would still be infantry support but the main bulk of the army would have been "all" the tanks.
Edit: Don't say WitE cause I want something like Avalon Hill's Stalingrad and it wasn't a monster game like WitE is. [:D]
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:47 pm
by AbwehrX
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:41 pm
by baloo7777
One of my all-time favorite AH games (back in the day)! Wish I had mine still! Is there anything like TRC now?
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:54 pm
by aaatoysandmore
I guess I should have said "for the PC" [:D]
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:57 pm
by baloo7777
ORIGINAL: aaatoysandmore
I guess I should have said "for the PC" [:D]
oops! uh...what he said...er +1...[8|]
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:01 pm
by Aurelian
ORIGINAL: baloo7777
One of my all-time favorite AH games (back in the day)! Wish I had mine still! Is there anything like TRC now?
L2 made an update, but when I spoke to the designers, they told me that Russia Besieged was better. So I bought that.
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:01 pm
by AbwehrX
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:08 pm
by radic202
This is also amongst my favorite Games:

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I have tried everything to get it to work on modern PCs but to no avail. I even got an electronic (yes I still have the boxed copy of it and "Operation Crusader and America Invades D-Day") copy of it via "abandonware site" and still can't get it to work on my gaming PC even with Dosbot. More of a "me" problem than anything else.
And I like you have never found anything real close to it. Please share if you find something worthwhile.
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:34 pm
by rwenstrup
Gary Grisby's War in the East...start with the short scenarios...
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:58 pm
by Rosseau
Decisive Battles: Case Blue. It would take some work in the editor to move those tankers, but not as hard as WitE, I think.
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:04 pm
by Missouri_Rebel
Well there's this
http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/6203/enemy-gates
Kind of a monster but not overwhelmingly so.
Oh, for the PC.
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:30 pm
by pzgndr
I'm still waiting for Hunted Cow to release
Russian Front. That appears to be a good operational level campaign game for the iPad. It was supposed to be released months ago but probably has some nagging gameplay and AI issues. We'll see.
WITE is just too much. We need a decent PC game of the Russian Campaign at the German corps and Russian army level, monthly turns, and a return to the good old days of wargaming. A computer adaptation of AH's TRC or Russian Front would be great. Still waiting...
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:33 pm
by zakblood
i'd play it, if someone makes it, but also don't want the complexities of WITE either
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:56 pm
by rwenstrup
You can also play The Russian Campaign on Vassal...
http://www.vassalengine.org/
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 3:07 pm
by kemmo
Radic,have you tried running Stalingrad with defend Reloaded,works ok with win 7.
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:57 pm
by radic202
ORIGINAL: kemmo
Radic,have you tried running Stalingrad with defend Reloaded,works ok with win 7.
Her.......WTH is defend reloaded? Guess I will take a look!
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:59 pm
by radic202
It is till dosbox in a way, wonder if this is way beyond my computer skills though. Will play wit hit this weekend and see. Thanks a bunch.
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:17 pm
by baloo7777
pzgndr
WITE is just too much. We need a decent PC game of the Russian Campaign at the German corps and Russian army level, monthly turns, and a return to the good old days of wargaming. A computer adaptation of AH's TRC or Russian Front would be great. Still waiting...
PUHLEEEASE!!! That would be great! [:'(]
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:16 am
by MrsWargamer
Sometimes dosbox saves the day, and sometimes the game should be left in the past. I do kinda miss this the 3 games mentioned by radic though.
Maybe I will sick my boyfriend on them, he hates it when software refuses to bow to his skills
Currently AH Russian Front is my choice in board games though. I have always enjoyed the mechanics of the design.
Has anyone else looked at the computer adaption of the Columbia Games block game by the name East Front?
RE: What game is most like AH's Stalingrad?
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:40 pm
by sPzAbt653
It is till dosbox in a way, wonder if this is way beyond my computer skills though.
See this thread, post #48, for how I got it to work.
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