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[FIXED B573] Helicopters will not land

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:59 am
by edfathead
I have noticed on the odd scenario after a HELO has RTB'd It will sometimes circle the ship until it runs out of fuel & crashes into the sea. I have checked hanger & elevator availability & all seems clear. Also Sea state is 1 on scenario I was playing. Is there something I am missing or does the odd pilot just lose his nerve on approach? ;)

RE: Helicopters will not land

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:14 am
by edfathead
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tpebfc2n67cpo ... o.zip?dl=0

A link to the scenario if anybody is keen to have a look.

RE: Helicopters will not land

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:22 pm
by ultradave
I opened it up. The helicopters and Ospreys circle in place. I noted that the status at bottom right says that they are Bingo fuel and returning to base. Last line says 0nm to base. I tried setting the task force as the new base, and in the messages that was successful, and then selected them all and told them return to base. That order was accepted but it continues to say that base is 0nm and circle in place.

So I guess all that shows is that it's not just you :-) But I'm not sure what's going on. It seems like they think the TF is at the point they are circling (is that about where they took off? )

RE: Helicopters will not land

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:23 pm
by mikmykWS
Thanks guys! Seems like a bizarre state and there doesn't seem to be a work around.

We'll take a deeper look.

Thanks and sorry!

Mike

RE: Helicopters will not land

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:05 pm
by edfathead
May or may not be related but I ordered two of the osprey from the original group to landed on the Allied French ships to the north. Maybe this confused them as to what side they belong to? Also yes they originated from "TF 6.50".

RE: Helicopters will not land

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:04 am
by Korvar
I have also experienced this issue - in this particular scenario (see attached), I've had three rotary aircraft succumb to this glitch. In the save I've attached, look for two MV-22B Ospreys (Black Knight #1 and #9) which are currently trying to land on the USS Bataan attached to TF 6.50.

Not all rotary aircraft are affected - I've noticed that those which are affected all seem to have not only hit the bingo fuel state, but have also triggered the "priority landing, critically low on fuel" state. So far that's the only thing I can see which distinguishes those aircraft which refuse to land from those which behave normally.

Hope this helps!

Korvar


Edit: I just noticed this series of events reported in the message log of the same scenario -

5:24:06 PM - Event: 'Chinese Aircraft Destroyed (+5 VP)' has been fired.
5:24:06 PM - Contact Z-9C Dauphin 2 #1227 has been lost.

I did NOT fire upon said aircraft, so it appears the AI is possibly experiencing the same issue.

RE: Helicopters will not land

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:29 pm
by Rongor
I also had this in the Raven 21 is down scenario.
I experimented a bit and I found out that if I unassign one of these circling dudes from RTB task and let them get some seperation from USS Tarawa, they then had a chance to land successfully but it didnt work every time I tried. So my naive guess would be the circling attitude fails to achieve requirements of a successfull final state.

savegame

RE: Helicopters will not land

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:54 pm
by scottb613
Hi Folks,

I'm not exactly sure of the version I'm running - but I did do the latest update via the UI a week or so ago... Had the same thing happen to a Seasprite attempting to land on a Perry last night... Ran out of fuel and crashed being unable to land... I see this is tagged as fixed - so I don't know if the version tagged as fixed is before or after the update posted last week...

Regards,
Scott

RE: Helicopters will not land

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:20 pm
by scottb613
Hi Folks,

I figured out how to load the BETA - B573.

Still having problems with helicopters landing... Seasprite was assigned to a Perry - unable to land - reset Home Base to Nimitz - still unable to land... Scenario attached...

Regards,
Scott

RE: Helicopters will not land

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:33 pm
by mikmykWS
Seems to be resolved by B376. Stay tuned.

Mike

RE: Helicopters will not land

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:24 pm
by Asterix909
Has anyone found a workaround in the meantime? I'd hate to lose my Agusta Bell 212 currently afflicted by this.

EDIT: After some fanangling, I found a workaround myself. I just quit WITHOUT immediately saving, reloaded slightly older save, and tried again... until it worked.
After the (second?) try I got the helicopter to land (I also unassigned it, assigned it to a random mission, re-unassigned it, then had it rtb manually)