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Minesweeper switched sides

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 7:36 pm
by Scotty
I'm playing #17 as the Allies vs. the AI Japs using v2.11 (started the game using 2.0). Last turn, I noticed one of my Allied minesweepers in a Japanese TF. It cleared some of my offensive mines, attempted to DC the Peto and was the target of a B-17 raid. Here is the AAR. I'm not sure if this is a bug or a feature (are ships allowed to defect?).

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/09/42

Weather: Overcast

Sub attack near Shortland Island at 29,34

Japanese Ships
TK Genyo Maru

Allied Ships
SS Peto
DMS Long



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Air attack on TF, near Shortland Island at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 3
A6M2 Zero x 3
A6M3 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe x 1 damaged
A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 2 damaged

LTJG R.Sugiyama of DI-1 Daitai is KILLED

Japanese Ships
AP Kashiwa Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Jusan Maru

Allied Ships
DMS Long

Attacking Level Bombers:
4 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 8:24 pm
by CapAndGown
Why is it always the DMS Long that defects? Do you think Humphrey Bogart is the skipper on that ship? :D

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 12:21 am
by XPav
Its a spy, just like the USS Long Island.

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 3:10 am
by Scotty
Thanks for the answers guys. And thanks XPav for confirming the other thing I was wondering about (USS LI). Now I know that I'm not crazy and didn't somehow misplace a group of SBDs. I kind of picture it with a little sign that says "feed me". :D Do all CVEs exhibit this behavior or just the Long Island?

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 5:04 am
by Oleg Mastruko
Im sure it has something to do with Long Island being an entity in the game (I mean - geographic entity, ie - "beach").

The real problem is, if I am not wrong, that there are no "flags" for sides in equipment slots. IOW, there is no flag to mark Yamato as being "Japanese equipment", for a game it's just "equipment" and is prone to deflect should the game database get corrupted.

O.