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Excessive losses in 1.08.01

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:18 pm
by tiger111
The end of turn German losses seem totally wrong

Scenario 1943 Campaign. Latest patch Turn 6.

Axis losses:

Killed 18,264
Captured 985
disabled 1,661,717. !!!!!!!![X(]
Returned 80.143.

Sov losses in similar proportions.

Is this a bug.......... Thanks.

RE: Excessive losses in 1.08.01

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:20 pm
by Dr. Foo
Wow....[X(]

RE: Excessive losses in 1.08.01

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:26 pm
by morvael
This is starting disabled pool, specified in scenario data.

RE: Excessive losses in 1.08.01

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:06 pm
by tiger111
OK fine -- so no problem then. Good to know, but a bit odd....

RE: Excessive losses in 1.08.01

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:46 am
by zakblood
turn 1 1941 alt vc260scn

my first battle played in many years tbh, seing WITW i thought i'd give it a go again so loaded the this battle and off i went to war, again i played Germany, have forgot more than i can remember so made more than a few mistakes but it seems to have gone ok

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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:47 am
by zakblood
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not gone yet for latest patch, as i want to see what difference the last one made before i load it, then can compare[;)]

RE: Excessive losses in 1.08.01

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:59 am
by morvael
ORIGINAL: Augustas

OK fine -- so no problem then. Good to know, but a bit odd....

Be happy, this gives you additional manpower from men returning to duty :)

RE: Excessive losses in 1.08.01

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:30 pm
by tiger111
Thanks Morvael.

I appreciate all the time and hard work that you put into these (WITE and WITW) games.

RE: Excessive losses in 1.08.01

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:33 pm
by morvael
More like WitE only, but thanks :)

Disabled pool is an important source of manpower for German player at this stage of war, and playing from 1941 you would have 1M+ men there, so it's good that the scenario starting in 43 gives you automatically some men in the disabled pool.

RE: Excessive losses in 1.08.01

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:32 pm
by BJP III
ORIGINAL: zakblood

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Those losses make no sense to me. I can see how they could be created on T2 from the T1 pockets, but how could there be so many shatters?

RE: Excessive losses in 1.08.01

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:54 am
by zakblood
Those losses make no sense to me. I can see how they could be created on T2 from the T1 pockets, but how could there be so many shatters?

i understand some of the terminology, like turn 2 and turn 1 etc, but what does shatters mean? same as destroyed? as it's not a word i seem to know, unless it short for shattered maybe, and yes there was a few of them, i moved all the units i could to attack the Russians, and i engaged them with overwhelming force in nearly all engagements, most just surrendered, some retreated, but not that many...

moved as fast as i could and as deep as i could in one turn, turn 2 was a lot better tbh, so thought i'd post 1 then update to latest version and compare and see the difference...

my aim and plan was to take out as much command and control eg HQ as i could on turn 1 and airfields,but ended up doing more armour than i thought i would, that was a turn 2 objective...

couldn't remember how to see how much supply and fuel i got, as i captured loads, and i mean loads, and i was at turn 3 objectives almost on turn 1 so my best start in this battle, only reason to post it tbh,never played past 5 up to yet, i just keep playing the first 5 or so turns, as even after a few years i never really get the mechanics of the game enough to play through, but will re learn and finish one, one day...

RE: Excessive losses in 1.08.01

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:15 pm
by tiger111
Sorry Morvael, thought you were a playtester for WITW as well.

RE: Excessive losses in 1.08.01

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:36 pm
by carlkay58
Shattered means that the defending unit has essentially dissolved due to low morale/TOE/experience and is no longer a combat unit. Essentially a surrender type of result that does not require isolation status first.

RE: Excessive losses in 1.08.01

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 5:01 pm
by morvael
ORIGINAL: Augustas

Sorry Morvael, thought you were a playtester for WITW as well.

I was, being quite active last summer, before I got involved in fixing WitE. Found a dozen of bugs at that time, helped a bit with Polish forces and tiny bits of code, but this is all incomparable with the work done on WitE...

RE: Excessive losses in 1.08.01

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 5:23 pm
by zakblood
ORIGINAL: carlkay58

Shattered means that the defending unit has essentially dissolved due to low morale/TOE/experience and is no longer a combat unit. Essentially a surrender type of result that does not require isolation status first.

thanks[;)]