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Two New Articles
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:39 am
by witpqs
RE: Two New Articles
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:10 am
by LoBaron
Thanks for posting witpqs! Great read!
RE: Two New Articles
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:53 am
by Hyacinth
Thanks for posting. [:)]
RE: Two New Articles
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:14 am
by Trugrit
Thanks for posting. The articles are great.
RE: Two New Articles
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:28 pm
by Dili
An US Navy made of flexibility that doesn't exists anymore. Now it is all the "process".
And not even the process they can get right. US Navy of today is without escorts except for carrier TF's.
RE: Two New Articles
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:45 pm
by geofflambert
Thnx from here too. I have a quibble with "only one type of capital ship at a time". Clearly today both aircraft carriers and submarines carrying nuclear weapons are capital ships.
RE: Two New Articles
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:57 pm
by Coach Zuck
Thanks
Coral Sea to Midway article was an Awesome read!
RE: Two New Articles
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:14 pm
by mikkey
Interesting, thank you witpqs.
RE: Two New Articles
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:42 pm
by John 3rd
Printed and read both. REALLY liked the 'Culture of Learning' article.
RE: Two New Articles
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:00 am
by msieving1
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
Printed and read both. REALLY liked the 'Culture of Learning' article.
The thing that always struck me in reading the history of the Pacific War is that the USN was much better at learning from experience than the Japanese. If you read USN after action reports, there will always be a "Lessons Learned" section to the report, detailing what worked and what didn't and recommending changes to procedures, and those lessons were quickly distributed to the fleet. That sort of openness to change didn't happen in the Japanese military, and they paid the price for it.
RE: Two New Articles
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:58 am
by Dili
Yes. US had much less dogma, ideology. But that is related to a widespread culture of mobility and practicability. It is inseparable from culture. I don't think that is convened well in the article.
As an example in 1944 Japan was still heavily dwelling into failed float-plane fighters. That means facts had much more difficulty to change the ideology.
Japanese had a much more passionated view of war, so they had a much more set piece idea how it should be fought and by what.
RE: Two New Articles
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:37 am
by geofflambert
On the float plane fighters, they really only work in areas not covered by US fighters. They can give some rude surprises to bombing raids, but one facet not to forget is they will shoot down a lot of Catalinas, and that is worth a lot.
RE: Two New Articles
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:04 am
by spence
As an example in 1944 Japan was still heavily dwelling into failed float-plane fighters. That means facts had much more difficulty to change the ideology.
Japanese had a much more passionated view of war, so they had a much more set piece idea how it should be fought and by what.
Just as indicative of the lack of doctrinal development was the belated adoption of a compact formation of warships focused on providing AAA defense to the carriers
in 1944 and the failure to institute any kind of formal fighter direction center in the IJN at any point at all during the war. Studies of an FDC in 1945 were sadly moot - by that time there was virtually nothing left of the IJN.
RE: Two New Articles
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:51 pm
by zuluhour
I conjecture that if Halsey had the flag at Midway, the calculated risk would have been difficult for him weigh. I also find it difficult to assign him to
carriers in the game for precisely that reason. Kudos to the devs for so many details.