Not sure if these are production bugs or WAD?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:54 am
I do note that in the sequence of play return to base happens before production. But in MWIF production planning happens before return to base so I did an experiment. In production planning the CW was at 19 BPs. I am playing with Food in Flames currently. I thought that when I returned all convoys out of the Bay of Biscay. The CW would drop down to a production of 5 with their current .75 multiple. However, what happened was the CW had 14 build points.
They did not have the 19 I made during the production planning, nor did they have the 5 it showed in the final production phase. They had 14 which is in the middle? I looked through RAC and couldn't find in the production step anywhere that it says when exactly convoys need to be in place.
Is this working as designed as some middle ground so convoys can be returned to base without losing all resources they were moving during the turn? Or is it a bug? For the life of me I can't remember how the old WIF rules used to be when I played 25 years ago either...
In my humble opinion if convoys are in place at the end of the turn they have done their job surviving the battle phases of the game and should have convoyed their cargo. You should be able to reassign them without losing all functionality for an entire turn. I didn't bother to look up RAW so please enlighten me on the rules.
The second situation that came up that I thought was really strange was this. The USSR is embroiled with the Finnish in the Winter War. They have captured the resource in Petsamo. However, due to no CP being set up outside of the Black and Caspian seas the Russians cannot get this resource home to use it. What they are doing is they are shipping this resource through the part of Finland the Finnish control and sending it to Germany to satisfy their trade agreement.
I understand that resources are fungible. One resource is no different than another. I do not think that the Finns would allow resources from a mine under USSR control to pass through their country letting the USSR then pass those resources off as their own to the Germans. This may be within the rules with multiple states of war. Or it may be a bug. Either way it should not be happening. Now if the USSR could get that resource back to their home country first then I think they could use it to satisfy a trade agreement.
They did not have the 19 I made during the production planning, nor did they have the 5 it showed in the final production phase. They had 14 which is in the middle? I looked through RAC and couldn't find in the production step anywhere that it says when exactly convoys need to be in place.
Is this working as designed as some middle ground so convoys can be returned to base without losing all resources they were moving during the turn? Or is it a bug? For the life of me I can't remember how the old WIF rules used to be when I played 25 years ago either...
In my humble opinion if convoys are in place at the end of the turn they have done their job surviving the battle phases of the game and should have convoyed their cargo. You should be able to reassign them without losing all functionality for an entire turn. I didn't bother to look up RAW so please enlighten me on the rules.
The second situation that came up that I thought was really strange was this. The USSR is embroiled with the Finnish in the Winter War. They have captured the resource in Petsamo. However, due to no CP being set up outside of the Black and Caspian seas the Russians cannot get this resource home to use it. What they are doing is they are shipping this resource through the part of Finland the Finnish control and sending it to Germany to satisfy their trade agreement.
I understand that resources are fungible. One resource is no different than another. I do not think that the Finns would allow resources from a mine under USSR control to pass through their country letting the USSR then pass those resources off as their own to the Germans. This may be within the rules with multiple states of war. Or it may be a bug. Either way it should not be happening. Now if the USSR could get that resource back to their home country first then I think they could use it to satisfy a trade agreement.