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Database field explanations
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:16 am
by RoccoNZ
1. The database field "Missile Defence" - what does it mean exactly?
Is it
a) The theoretical number of missiles needed to overwhelm the targets defence and score enough damage points to kill, or
b) The approximate number of weapons to score enough damage points to kill?
2. Max Sea State - is this an 'operate' or 'survive' rating? (i.e. if sea state exceeds 'operate level' damage starts to occur'
RE: Database field explanations
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:20 am
by ClaudeJ
Hello RoccoNZ,
regarding 1, straight from the horse's mouth:
The ‘Missile Defence’ value can be found in the Database Viewer (DB Viewer) for ships and facilities, and gives an indication on the number of Harpoon / SLAM / Maverick missiles needed to destroy the unit.
New in v1.07: Weapon Release Authorization (WRA) - Warfare Sims
Have a nice day.
RE: Database field explanations
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:26 am
by RoccoNZ
Thanks.
Looking at one of the records threw me a bit:
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#87 - RKR Slava
Damage points: 1390
Missile Defence: 40 Harpoon / SLAM / Maverick equivalents
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[1390/40 = 34.75]
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#1181 - UGM-84B Harpoon IA
Warhead: 221kg/488lb Penetrating Blast/Frag [98kg/215lb Destex] (166.6 DP)
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So [1390/166.6 = 8.374] either I've got the wrong end of the stick, or the DB has an error, or explanation a is correct?
RE: Database field explanations
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:58 am
by Dimitris
It's not an indication of how many warhead impacts the ship can take before succumbing (BTW, your calculation is somewhat simplistic because it does not take into account things like armor penetration modifiers or internal detonation modifiers). It is an estimate of how many weapons it would take to overwhelm the unit's AAW defences.
RE: Database field explanations
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:02 am
by Elouda
What is the reasoning behind the Arleigh Burke (and its half-sisters, like the Kongo and Sejong the Great) only rating a 20 while the CMP Ticonderoga is a 96?
RE: Database field explanations
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:31 am
by RoccoNZ
Thanks Sunburn
RE: Database field explanations
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:22 am
by Primarchx
ORIGINAL: Elouda
What is the reasoning behind the Arleigh Burke (and its half-sisters, like the Kongo and Sejong the Great) only rating a 20 while the CMP Ticonderoga is a 96?
Number of missiles and directors?
RE: Database field explanations
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:18 pm
by RoccoNZ
What was the answer on the Max Sea State field?
RE: Database field explanations
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:26 pm
by mikmykWS
Rocco not using that one yet because we have static settings for this (entire globe). Once we get variable than it makes sense to turn on.
The restrictions would keep speed boats from sailing into Hurricanes and things like that.
Thanks!
Mike
RE: Database field explanations
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:29 am
by Midcon113
Rocco not using that one yet because we have static settings for this (entire globe).
Mike,
Do you have a write-up on what the plans are for weather eventually? Love to know what the eventual plans are, specifically about how they'll affect air operations.
Mark
RE: Database field explanations
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:42 am
by mikmykWS
Hi Mark
Yeah somewhere. If you can let us clear this release and then buzz. I'll dig out that stuff and post.
In general we want it to be editable, dynamic and make sense (physics/meteorological constraints) which I know is very broad but pretty sure we had some more detailed ideas written down.
Mike
RE: Database field explanations
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:41 am
by RoccoNZ
ORIGINAL: mikmyk
Rocco not using that one yet because we have static settings for this (entire globe). Once we get variable than it makes sense to turn on.
The restrictions would keep speed boats from sailing into Hurricanes and things like that.
Thanks!
Mike
Thanks. No biggie. Was just curious because I saw a DB entry for an OPV with a value of Sea State 3, and I've seen reports of the same vessel sailing around in 14m waves...I'll log it as a DB issue.
RE: Database field explanations
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:00 am
by mikmykWS
Yeah once we actually turn it on in the code it will work great[:'(]
RE: Database field explanations
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:22 pm
by Midcon113
In general we want it to be editable, dynamic and make sense (physics/meteorological constraints) which I know is very broad but pretty sure we had some more detailed ideas written down.
Mike,
Sounds great! Variable, dynamic weather during a scenario would add a whole new dimension to this simulation. Having to make a stop at the Met office before firing off air missions, having a purpose for weather satellites, switching to alternate targets due to transient weather conditions...the mind boggles with the possibilities!
Short version - can't wait!
Mark
RE: Database field explanations
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:36 am
by RoccoNZ
Mike is sea ice conditions likely to be part of this?
RE: Database field explanations
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:51 am
by mikmykWS
Well the ice pack is there and does impact surface navigation and detections.
Is this what you mean?
Mike
RE: Database field explanations
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:53 pm
by RoccoNZ
Yeah, I was thinking broken versus hard pack sea ice. Something that ice-class ships can exploit. Of course that would need a new database field for ice class rating of the ships. I've got a scenario in mind where using the ice field is a tactical consideration.
RE: Database field explanations
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:13 pm
by mikmykWS
No broken ice or different levels yet. Just ice or no ice.
Mike