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LSD ship, aircraft operation?
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:50 pm
by colt6900
LSD ships seem to operate float planes, however, they have a flight deck but are not able to receive traditional carrier aircraft?
I assume they will be able to operate helicopters when they become available.
Does anyone know if they're able to load traditional aircraft from the dock and fly them off the deck to a destination?
RE: LSD ship, aircraft operation?
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:24 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: colt6900
LSD ships seem to operate float planes, however, they have a flight deck but are not able to receive traditional carrier aircraft?
I assume they will be able to operate helicopters when they become available.
Does anyone know if they're able to load traditional aircraft from the dock and fly them off the deck to a destination?
Look here:
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/12/12idx.htm
WWII USN LSDs did not have flight decks. Each was different than the others, however. No Allied helicopters in the game.
RE: LSD ship, aircraft operation?
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:46 am
by Barb
I believe colt6900 has meant Japanese LSDs -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landing_craft_carrier
They operated light aircraft and autogyros IRL.
RE: LSD ship, aircraft operation?
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:19 am
by Bullwinkle58
It would have helped to define the side.
RE: LSD ship, aircraft operation?
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:42 pm
by Lokasenna
In game, I believe they will operate small fighter groups if you want them to... but you have to put float planes on them (Rufes?), then upgrade to the A6M5. Thing is, those fighters don't really have much use by the time you can do that. Probably still better off with float planes to counter subs.
RE: LSD ship, aircraft operation?
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:37 pm
by Shark7
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
In game, I believe they will operate small fighter groups if you want them to... but you have to put float planes on them (Rufes?), then upgrade to the A6M5. Thing is, those fighters don't really have much use by the time you can do that. Probably still better off with float planes to counter subs.
Well, they really couldn't operate a true float plane like a Ruth. IIRC, some of them could (in theory) launch a real fighter like the Ki-43 or Ki-61, but could not recover them. Akitsu Maru is probably the ship the OP is talking about, and it was a vessel of the Imperial Japanese Army used as landing ship, aircraft ferry, and light carrier. Though in the latter role it could only launch and land small, slow recon craft such as the Ki-76 Stella or the Ka-1 Autogyro.
In game these ships should be limited to only those planes they could actually launch and land, thus you need house rule to cover it. IMO of course. [;)]
RE: LSD ship, aircraft operation?
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:51 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: Shark7
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
In game, I believe they will operate small fighter groups if you want them to... but you have to put float planes on them (Rufes?), then upgrade to the A6M5. Thing is, those fighters don't really have much use by the time you can do that. Probably still better off with float planes to counter subs.
Well, they really couldn't operate a true float plane like a Ruth. IIRC, some of them could (in theory) launch a real fighter like the Ki-43 or Ki-61, but could not recover them. Akitsu Maru is probably the ship the OP is talking about, and it was a vessel of the Imperial Japanese Army used as landing ship, aircraft ferry, and light carrier. Though in the latter role it could only launch and land small, slow recon craft such as the Ki-76 Stella or the Ka-1 Autogyro.
In game these ships should be limited to only those planes they could actually launch and land, thus you need house rule to cover it. IMO of course. [;)]
I don't know that you need a house rule to cover it, as 9 fighter planes operating off of an LSD isn't exactly game breaking and is definitely a sub-optimal use of the LSD's 9-plane capacity given its role at that point in the game. By the time you can upgrade from Rufes to A6M5s, a 9-plane CAP isn't worth anything (any invasions you'll be undertaking will face resistance stiff enough that it won't make a different). On the other hand, Rufes and other FPs can at least run naval search and ASW duty.
RE: LSD ship, aircraft operation?
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:39 pm
by colt6900
In
my efforts agree with what you said. Only float planes seem to work because when I tried to fly conventional fighters
on to the LSD flightdeck, the LSD does not show up on the transferred to ship screen.
RE: LSD ship, aircraft operation?
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:08 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: colt6900
In
my efforts agree with what you said. Only float planes seem to work because when I tried to fly conventional fighters
on to the LSD flightdeck, the LSD does not show up on the transferred to ship screen.
But the upgrading trick works, assuming they actually operate from then onwards (and you never transfer them off). You'd just doing yourself a disservice if you do.