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(M)WiF Dream - Calling Freud
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:45 pm
by rkr1958
For all you Sigmund Freud's out there I need help interpreting a dream from last night. Now before I get to my dream we've had significant snow and ice the last two weeks here in northern Alabama so that has definitely been on my mind. Now to my dream, I'm playing (M)WiF with miniatures out in the snow on the side of the road. I'm playing some unknown opponent and we're communicating via walkie talkie. Apparently the map is the roads and yards of my neighborhood. It's night and I'm laying in the gutter by my pieces when a group of people come by and kick over a few of my pieces. My thought is what do I expect when I'm playing (M)WiF with miniatures in the road. What's odd (or maybe odder) is that I don't own the paper and cardboard version of WiF and have learned to play only in the last year and with MWiF. Weird huh ...
RE: (M)WiF Dream - Calling Freud
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:57 pm
by warspite1
Have you been eating cheese late at night? [:D]
RE: (M)WiF Dream - Calling Freud
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 3:30 pm
by rkr1958
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Have you been eating cheese late at night? [:D]
In fact I have. I love cheese! [;)]
RE: (M)WiF Dream - Calling Freud
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 3:41 pm
by Centuur
ORIGINAL: rkr1958
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Have you been eating cheese late at night? [:D]
In fact I have. I love cheese! [;)]
Me too, but I don't have any such dreams after eating good Dutch cheese... [;)]
RE: (M)WiF Dream - Calling Freud
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:04 pm
by rkr1958
ORIGINAL: Centuur
ORIGINAL: rkr1958
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Have you been eating cheese late at night? [:D]
In fact I have. I love cheese! [;)]
Me too, but I don't have any such dreams after eating good Dutch cheese... [;)]
That must it. Dang American cheese!
RE: (M)WiF Dream - Calling Freud
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:47 pm
by warspite1
EDAM - Bestest Cheese ever. FACT. [:)]
RE: (M)WiF Dream - Calling Freud
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:14 pm
by David Clark
Freud suggested that we all have extremely powerful, built-in desires. These desires might have been ok before we formed into mass societies, but in modern cities they would lead to anarchy and disaster - our deepest needs are incompatible with civilized life. Supposedly, we have all domesticated ourselves the same way we domesticated animals - we've learned to repress these desires, as the price we've paid to live so closely with others. In fact, we've suppressed these needs so powerfully that we've even hidden them from ourselves - after all, the most convincing lie is the one you yourself believe.
Freud suggested that these desires were so powerful, unfortunately, that our process of self-domestication could never succeed completely. Our unconscious needs would re-emerge, often coded into the symbolic content of our dreams. Freud claimed that by conducting symbolic analysis of dream content, the underlying repressed desires could be identified, and new, less damaging ways to repress them could be formed.
Anyway, if I wanted to psychoanalyze your dream Freud-style, I'd say that the game you were playing represents the desire to return to or preserve the joy in pure play you enjoyed as a child. No-one looks down on a child who plays, but as we grow older, society pressures us to stop playing and get to work - fun is discouraged, except when it appears in carefully constructed, socially acceptable forms. You feel that wargames aren't acceptable to the society you inhabit - in your dream, you are able to pursue your hobby outdoors, in public, when you can't in real life. Nonetheless, even in your dream, your play is threatened by the expectations of others, who prevent you from playing there too. The play is with miniatures, which are solid and durable in a way that paper and cardboard aren't; you feel that your enjoyment of the games you play is under threat not just from others but from time and random chance. You communicate with your opponent over a radio, not face-to-face - even your ability to speak while playing is furtive and perilous.
Gaming makes you feel threatened and ashamed, since it is held in such contempt by society, who want you to work harder, make more money, and pursue your 'fun' in more socially-acceptable, popular ways.
(I don't believe any of this, btw - Freud's account of human psychology in the face of modern society is very compelling, but his dream analysis stuff strikes me as very weak, and was supported by deeply flawed and often fraudulent data.)
RE: (M)WiF Dream - Calling Freud
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:24 am
by rkr1958
ORIGINAL: David Clark
Freud suggested that we all have extremely powerful, built-in desires. These desires might have been ok before we formed into mass societies, but in modern cities they would lead to anarchy and disaster - our deepest needs are incompatible with civilized life. Supposedly, we have all domesticated ourselves the same way we domesticated animals - we've learned to repress these desires, as the price we've paid to live so closely with others. In fact, we've suppressed these needs so powerfully that we've even hidden them from ourselves - after all, the most convincing lie is the one you yourself believe.
Freud suggested that these desires were so powerful, unfortunately, that our process of self-domestication could never succeed completely. Our unconscious needs would re-emerge, often coded into the symbolic content of our dreams. Freud claimed that by conducting symbolic analysis of dream content, the underlying repressed desires could be identified, and new, less damaging ways to repress them could be formed.
Anyway, if I wanted to psychoanalyze your dream Freud-style, I'd say that the game you were playing represents the desire to return to or preserve the joy in pure play you enjoyed as a child. No-one looks down on a child who plays, but as we grow older, society pressures us to stop playing and get to work - fun is discouraged, except when it appears in carefully constructed, socially acceptable forms. You feel that wargames aren't acceptable to the society you inhabit - in your dream, you are able to pursue your hobby outdoors, in public, when you can't in real life. Nonetheless, even in your dream, your play is threatened by the expectations of others, who prevent you from playing there too. The play is with miniatures, which are solid and durable in a way that paper and cardboard aren't; you feel that your enjoyment of the games you play is under threat not just from others but from time and random chance. You communicate with your opponent over a radio, not face-to-face - even your ability to speak while playing is furtive and perilous.
Gaming makes you feel threatened and ashamed, since it is held in such contempt by society, who want you to work harder, make more money, and pursue your 'fun' in more socially-acceptable, popular ways.
(I don't believe any of this, btw - Freud's account of human psychology in the face of modern society is very compelling, but his dream analysis stuff strikes me as very weak, and was supported by deeply flawed and often fraudulent data.)
[X(] [:)] [:)][:)][:)]
RE: (M)WiF Dream - Calling Freud
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:12 am
by Centuur
ORIGINAL: rkr1958
ORIGINAL: David Clark
Freud suggested that we all have extremely powerful, built-in desires. These desires might have been ok before we formed into mass societies, but in modern cities they would lead to anarchy and disaster - our deepest needs are incompatible with civilized life. Supposedly, we have all domesticated ourselves the same way we domesticated animals - we've learned to repress these desires, as the price we've paid to live so closely with others. In fact, we've suppressed these needs so powerfully that we've even hidden them from ourselves - after all, the most convincing lie is the one you yourself believe.
Freud suggested that these desires were so powerful, unfortunately, that our process of self-domestication could never succeed completely. Our unconscious needs would re-emerge, often coded into the symbolic content of our dreams. Freud claimed that by conducting symbolic analysis of dream content, the underlying repressed desires could be identified, and new, less damaging ways to repress them could be formed.
Anyway, if I wanted to psychoanalyze your dream Freud-style, I'd say that the game you were playing represents the desire to return to or preserve the joy in pure play you enjoyed as a child. No-one looks down on a child who plays, but as we grow older, society pressures us to stop playing and get to work - fun is discouraged, except when it appears in carefully constructed, socially acceptable forms. You feel that wargames aren't acceptable to the society you inhabit - in your dream, you are able to pursue your hobby outdoors, in public, when you can't in real life. Nonetheless, even in your dream, your play is threatened by the expectations of others, who prevent you from playing there too. The play is with miniatures, which are solid and durable in a way that paper and cardboard aren't; you feel that your enjoyment of the games you play is under threat not just from others but from time and random chance. You communicate with your opponent over a radio, not face-to-face - even your ability to speak while playing is furtive and perilous.
Gaming makes you feel threatened and ashamed, since it is held in such contempt by society, who want you to work harder, make more money, and pursue your 'fun' in more socially-acceptable, popular ways.
(I don't believe any of this, btw - Freud's account of human psychology in the face of modern society is very compelling, but his dream analysis stuff strikes me as very weak, and was supported by deeply flawed and often fraudulent data.)
[X(] [:)] [:)][:)][:)]
How was it: anything you say can be used against you? [:D]
RE: (M)WiF Dream - Calling Freud
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:51 am
by Orm
ORIGINAL: Centuur
How was it: anything you say can be used against you? [:D]
You almost got it right.
Everything you say will be used against you is the correct version.
RE: (M)WiF Dream - Calling Freud
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:58 pm
by bo
ORIGINAL: Centuur
ORIGINAL: rkr1958
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Have you been eating cheese late at night? [:D]
In fact I have. I love cheese! [;)]
Me too, but I don't have any such dreams after eating good Dutch cheese... [;)]
Then just maybe you should find out what cheese hes eating and you could finally enjoy MWIF, maybe.
Bo
RE: (M)WiF Dream - Calling Freud
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:59 pm
by bo
ORIGINAL: Orm
ORIGINAL: Centuur
How was it: anything you say can be used against you? [:D]
You almost got it right.
Everything you say will be used against you is the correct version.
Your right Orm it always is. Or as President Clinton once said it depends what is, is[:D]
Bo
RE: (M)WiF Dream - Calling Freud
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:26 pm
by Missouri_Rebel
My favorite cheese is from Australia. A brand called Old Croc, Extra Sharp Cheddar. Always good dreams after consuming it.
RE: (M)WiF Dream - Calling Freud
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:51 pm
by Cataphract88
My personal favorite is good-old-fashioned mature English Cheddar. Pretty hard to beat! [:)]
RE: (M)WiF Dream - Calling Freud
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:54 pm
by bo
ORIGINAL: cataphract88
My personal favorite is good-old-fashioned mature English Cheddar. Pretty hard to beat! [:)]
(in reply to Missouri_Rebel)
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My favorite is Munster cheese not sure where it is made
Bo
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RE: (M)WiF Dream - Calling Freud
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:46 am
by Joseignacio
ORIGINAL: bo
ORIGINAL: cataphract88
My personal favorite is good-old-fashioned mature English Cheddar. Pretty hard to beat! [:)]
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My favorite is Munster cheese not sure where it is made
Bo
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Hey, I have been there...
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munster_%28Indiana%29
RE: (M)WiF Dream - Calling Freud
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:18 am
by Extraneous
RE: (M)WiF Dream - Calling Freud
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:56 am
by bo
ORIGINAL: Joseignacio
ORIGINAL: bo
ORIGINAL: cataphract88
My personal favorite is good-old-fashioned mature English Cheddar. Pretty hard to beat! [:)]
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My favorite is Munster cheese not sure where it is made
Bo
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Hey, I have been there...
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munster_%28Indiana%29
I should have known better[:D]
Bo