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Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:16 am
by undercovergeek
Landed at a few beaches on the Japanese first turn and some LCUs havent gotten all their supplies off the boats yet and are in the red
if i attack with these LCUs is the order of the turn such that supplies are unloaded before the attack, therefore supplying a lot of these troops out of the red?
RE: Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:43 am
by Numdydar
Sigh. I am starting to understand Symon's and Alfred's frustration with things a lot better since I have been on the forum for a long time now.
In 5 secs I looked this up in the MANUAL and found the answer on pages 32-33 titled amazingly enough 'Sequence of Play'. It VERY clearly shows that supplies are unloaded BEFORE combat. You can even find out how much supplies will be unloaded if you were willing to read those section of the manual. But I will leave this for you to research or not as you see fit.
RE: Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:18 am
by undercovergeek
thankyou for your help
RE: Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:40 pm
by rustysi
ORIGINAL: Numdydar
Sigh. I am starting to understand Symon's and Alfred's frustration with things a lot better since I have been on the forum for a long time now.
In 5 secs I looked this up in the MANUAL and found the answer on pages 32-33 titled amazingly enough 'Sequence of Play'. It VERY clearly shows that supplies are unloaded BEFORE combat. You can even find out how much supplies will be unloaded if you were willing to read those section of the manual. But I will leave this for you to research or not as you see fit.
[:D]
RE: Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:50 pm
by Symon
ORIGINAL: undercovergeek
Landed at a few beaches on the Japanese first turn and some LCUs havent gotten all their supplies off the boats yet and are in the red
if i attack with these LCUs is the order of the turn such that supplies are unloaded before the attack, therefore supplying a lot of these troops out of the red?
Dude, you think this is a computer game or something? Think about it.
Put the boys ashore and they are prompt good to go. But tomorrow, they need rice, ammo, toilet paper, new underpants, all sorts of stuff that don't come in with the assault wave. Supply is in waves. Lots of it is lost just because it was. You need more and then a skoosh more just because you do.You must, simply must, have supply backup for a landing party. Or are you just looking to land units at open bases?
JWE
RE: Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:48 am
by undercovergeek
theres a **** ton of supplies with the troops, its just still on the ships, all i wanted to know was will it come ashore before any attack i order
Its in the manual, i get it, i should have read that first, i get it, mea culpe, i get it, lack of patience answering questions that are easy, i get it, OK, I GET IT!!!
so before there are anymore snidey remarks and amusing pictures of idiotic characters pointing at a manual, i get it
RE: Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:12 am
by crsutton
It is best to go in with a surplus of ships and have some of them carry supply only. This will enhance the chances of a full load of supply landing with your troops. This is what makes the Allied LST a game changer. They just vomit supply on the beach for you...[;)]
RE: Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:41 am
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: crsutton
It is best to go in with a surplus of ships and have some of them carry supply only. This will enhance the chances of a full load of supply landing with your troops. This is what makes the Allied LST a game changer. They just vomit supply on the beach for you...[;)]
They vomit
everything onto the beach. There have been times when I've referred to the Allied logistical march as "vomiting up bases." The LST opens up, spews out a few hundred engineers, and the next day you've got a base.
RE: Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:40 pm
by ETF
ORIGINAL: undercovergeek
Landed at a few beaches on the Japanese first turn and some LCUs havent gotten all their supplies off the boats yet and are in the red
if i attack with these LCUs is the order of the turn such that supplies are unloaded before the attack, therefore supplying a lot of these troops out of the red?
Good question man....I learned from it. Thanks for it.
RE: Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:35 pm
by HansBolter
ORIGINAL: crsutton
It is best to go in with a surplus of ships and have some of them carry supply only. This will enhance the chances of a full load of supply landing with your troops. This is what makes the Allied LST a game changer. They just vomit supply on the beach for you...[;)]
I don't just make sure I have extra ships in the invasion TF.
I set up a separate supply TF of pure LSTs and escorts.
It starts unloading at the same time as the assault troops and is empty long before the APAs/AKAs in the invasion TF.
RE: Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:03 pm
by rustysi
ORIGINAL: undercovergeek
theres a **** ton of supplies with the troops, its just still on the ships, all i wanted to know was will it come ashore before any attack i order
Its in the manual, i get it, i should have read that first, i get it, mea culpe, i get it, lack of patience answering questions that are easy, i get it, OK, I GET IT!!!
so before there are anymore snidey remarks and amusing pictures of idiotic characters pointing at a manual, i get it
Apologies. [:(]
RE: Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:56 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: undercovergeek
theres a **** ton of supplies with the troops, its just still on the ships, all i wanted to know was will it come ashore before any attack i order
Its in the manual, i get it, i should have read that first, i get it, mea culpe, i get it, lack of patience answering questions that are easy, i get it, OK, I GET IT!!!
so before there are anymore snidey remarks and amusing pictures of idiotic characters pointing at a manual, i get it
But do you get it? [:'(]
RE: Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:18 am
by undercovergeek
ORIGINAL: rustysi
ORIGINAL: undercovergeek
theres a **** ton of supplies with the troops, its just still on the ships, all i wanted to know was will it come ashore before any attack i order
Its in the manual, i get it, i should have read that first, i get it, mea culpe, i get it, lack of patience answering questions that are easy, i get it, OK, I GET IT!!!
so before there are anymore snidey remarks and amusing pictures of idiotic characters pointing at a manual, i get it
Apologies. [:(]
and i too
big hugs
RE: Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:18 am
by undercovergeek
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: undercovergeek
theres a **** ton of supplies with the troops, its just still on the ships, all i wanted to know was will it come ashore before any attack i order
Its in the manual, i get it, i should have read that first, i get it, mea culpe, i get it, lack of patience answering questions that are easy, i get it, OK, I GET IT!!!
so before there are anymore snidey remarks and amusing pictures of idiotic characters pointing at a manual, i get it
But do you get it? [:'(]
indeed i do, lol
thanks for everyones input here
RE: Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:00 pm
by ETF
I'm not sure I get it?
Is the manual updated for the present version of WITPAE?
RE: Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:07 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: ETF
I'm not sure I get it?
Is the manual updated for the present version of WITPAE?
It is, but you can't get it.
RE: Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:02 pm
by Lecivius
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: ETF
I'm not sure I get it?
Is the manual updated for the present version of WITPAE?
It is, but you can't get it.
I don't get it [&:]
[:'(]
RE: Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:41 pm
by HansBolter
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: ETF
I'm not sure I get it?
Is the manual updated for the present version of WITPAE?
It is, but you can't get it.
I got it! [:D]
RE: Unloading supplies on the beaches
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:54 pm
by rustysi
ORIGINAL: HansBolter
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: ETF
I'm not sure I get it?
Is the manual updated for the present version of WITPAE?
It is, but you can't get it.
I got it! [:D]
Huh?[:D]