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Apple Backs off
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:26 pm
by VegasOZ
It has been reported that Apple has restored the sale of The Ultimate General: Gettysburg to the App store.
Maybe the backlash had an effect, either way, it's good news and about time.
RE: Apple Backs off
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:35 pm
by Kuokkanen
Wargamers strikes back
RE: Apple Backs off
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:03 pm
by TJD
Very good news.
See it here!
RE: Apple Backs off
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:43 pm
by aaatoysandmore
Letters to CEO's et al have a way of getting things done. I kinda knew this wouldn't last long.
RE: Apple Backs off
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:21 pm
by operating
Thanks TJD, There some pretty healthy comments at that site too.....
RE: Apple Backs off
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:59 pm
by Erik Rutins
Great to see.
RE: Apple Backs off
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:51 pm
by Aurelian
More like they're scaling back
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/06/r ... rate-flag/
.....However, TechCrunch reports that talks with unnamed Apple representatives suggest the company is looking to simply reinstate games and apps that make those "historical or educational uses" of the flag without delay. "Apple’s intention is not to lose games from the App Store, but rather remove those titles that could offend," the site paraphrased.
It's all a bit vague and confusing at this point, but signs seem to be pointing toward Apple scaling back what appeared to be a blanket ban on the use of the flag in games and apps. Apple has yet to respond to our request for comment on the matter.
http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/26/885061 ... te-flag-to
There may have been titles that shouldn't have been pulled because the use of the flag could be considered 'historical' or 'educational,'' according to the article. "Apple's intention is not to lose games from the App Store, but rather remove those titles that could offend."
Apple's public statement on the matter seems to reflect that as well:
"We have removed apps from the App Store that use the Confederate flag in offensive or mean-spirited ways, which is in violation of our guidelines. We are not removing apps that display the Confederate flag for educational or historical uses."
RE: Apple Backs off
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:38 am
by Kuokkanen
Hey hey, could this debacle been just advertising stunt? Like how some years ago GoG declared it's going to shutdown its servers but didn't...
RE: Apple Backs off
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:58 am
by Aurelian
ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen
Hey hey, could this debacle been just advertising stunt? Like how some years ago GoG declared it's going to shutdown its servers but didn't...
Could be.
RE: Apple Backs off
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:17 am
by Gilmer
"Apple’s intention is not to lose games from the App Store, but rather remove those titles that could offend," the site paraphrased.
Since when do people have the right not to be offended?
RE: Apple Backs off
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:02 am
by jamus34
ORIGINAL: Aurelian
ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen
Hey hey, could this debacle been just advertising stunt? Like how some years ago GoG declared it's going to shutdown its servers but didn't...
Could be.
I seriously doubt Apple would think that trying to turn the issues in SC and regarding the Confederate flag into a PR stunt would be a good idea
RE: Apple Backs off
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:39 am
by Kuokkanen
From previous thread:
ORIGINAL: mrscaz
Apple has very quietly returned the Civil War games back to the App Store. Ultimate General Gettysburg is there as well as all of the John Tiller games. I guess bad press trumps any "principled stand" they had. [:D]
Is it impossible idea that Apple wanted to attract attention to those games? If that wasn't the goal, were they just lacking foresight where it would lead? Or maybe Apple wanted to do political statement about censorship?
This happened in Japan few years ago. Someone in Japan government wrote draft for a law which would restrict nudity and other 'adult' themes in manga and anime. One thing of no-no was girls' school uniforms. Before the law was put in effect, many stores in Tokyo took most of their manga under the counter as dictated by the draft. That got enough attention for ministers (or whoever) to take time to read through the draft and rework it to something more sensible. Maybe Apple's goal was something similar and they feign ignorance?
RE: Apple Backs off
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:11 am
by Alchenar
ORIGINAL: H Gilmer
"Apple’s intention is not to lose games from the App Store, but rather remove those titles that could offend," the site paraphrased.
Since when do people have the right not to be offended?
Ever since they had the right to decide when and where to take their business? Corporate image is incredibly important and Apple is super-cautious over this sort of thing.
e: there's no Machiavellian plan here. Apple's general policy (they've done this sort of thing a fair amount in the past) is to blanket remove anything that could cause them PR trouble and then work on a case by case basis of putting apps back on their market.
RE: Apple Backs off
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 2:49 pm
by Chris Hampton
Good, it's about time. We are heading into a country with the majority ruled by the minority. It's just another symptom of the cancer of Political Correctness running unchecked....