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Don't want to hijack their aar thread any further...

Then we are playing different games. Attacked just 2 minutes ago per above.. Offensive adjusted CV 339... defensive adjusted CV 336. Obvious hold

Note in this case, I did attach 2 pioneer battalions but I didn't move up any HQs.

Move up with 4MP


Attack

if u move the HQ in range it massively increases your chances.

I did this quickly at the time of writing the post. [;)] With or without Pioneers, with or without the HQ, I've never failed to take Riga using this method with these two units hasty attacking from the east. One time I think it took 3 attacks but because I forgot to attach anything or more leader up and they still took Riga. It's automatic and normally happens on the first attack.

I repeated my Riga turn 1 test with 100 primary attacks. The conditions 1) 4 air ground attacks, 2) air ground support, moving air field within 8 hexes of Riga (support triggered 90% of the time), 3) Pz 1st and 6th divisions stuffed with SU's (including 2 pioneer and 1 Jgd) and 4)Corp HQ within 5 hexes of the divisions. The results ?? Average Soviet adjusted CV 146 (max 909!!) and German 460 (max 660.) Retreat/helds ??? 71% of 1st attacks, 20% of 2nd, 5% of 3rd, and 4% of 4th. There were no "failures", so to speak, but 9% of the time the Soviets would reoccupy Riga.

Interestingly, 25% of the successful attacks were at odds of less than 3.0. This implies a 200-300 attack run would more accurately reflect the true odds of success/failure.

The data is interesting for sure, but to me it's a tactical problem that is already solved. Goal - Take Riga Turn 1. Success - 100%. Failure = 0%. Soviets can only reoccupy riga if you let them. In a situation where I failed 3 times in a row, I would probably move MOT unit to occupy Riga as I don't want to have to attack it again on T2.

I agree. My earlier run (9 months ago) lack HQ (rule change in 1.08) and heavy air ground support.