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Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:21 pm
by HeinzHarald
I've been trying to think of movies (not documentaries) but am drawing a blank at the moment.
Watching a movie and then reading up on what actually happened is my favorite way to learn history, and I know embarrassingly little about these conflicts.
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:51 pm
by Nico165b165
Lebanon - filmed mostly inside an inexperienced tank crew during Lebanon's invasion in 82 (warning for claustrophobics)
Kippur - about an Israeli helicopter rescue team in 73
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:05 pm
by Warhorse
Interesting, didn't know of these, thank you!
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:03 pm
by BeirutDude
Lebanon is all in Hebrew so most of us have to used the subtitles but very good movie. The lebanon I knew and...
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:14 am
by leftydad
There is a 2014 documentary (by Steven Spielberg's sister)about the 1948 Arab-Israeli air war, ABOVE AND BEYOND.
http://aboveandbeyondthemovie.com/
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:39 am
by Crossroads
Looks like pure class. USD 12.99 to view at iTunes. DVD pre-order for USD 14.99.
Hmm...
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:34 pm
by TheWombat_matrixforum
Not about the war per se, but
Waltz with Bashir is an amazing look a the psychology of war and memory, set around the events of 1982 in Lebanon. There's a graphic novel, too, that is quite good. I've used both in classes I teach. The movie is animated, and quite powerful; it's depiction of combat is a far cry from the triumphalism that permeates a lot of writing about the IDF.
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:35 pm
by leftydad
With Amazon Prime, you can watch it for free.
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:39 pm
by leftydad
SIX DAYS IN JUNE is one book I've read. By Eric Hammel. Also available as an audio book.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002IP ... 1_3&sr=8-3
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:44 pm
by HeinzHarald
Thank you for the suggestions. They all sound very interesting.
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:37 pm
by leftydad
FYI, my grandparents came from Sweden. (To USA)
James Larson
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:47 pm
by VegasOZ
The Movie that I know of that gives background is: EXODUS(written by Leon Uris, Stars Paul Newman). It tells the story of Israel up to the establishment of the State and covers some of the early armed conflict. I am not aware of any war movie that depicts any of the major Arab Israeli wars, however.
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:13 pm
by comte
Beaufort is a decent movie about the late war in Lebanon. It's out of the time frame of the game but still worth a watch. The Beaufort book the movie is based on by Ron Leshem is also good.
Shabbat Shalom
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:21 pm
by TheWombat_matrixforum
ORIGINAL: VegasOZ
The Movie that I know of that gives background is: EXODUS(written by Leon Uris, Stars Paul Newman). It tells the story of Israel up to the establishment of the State and covers some of the early armed conflict. I am not aware of any war movie that depicts any of the major Arab Israeli wars, however.
While this was one of my favorite movies as a kid (book, too), I would hesitate to offer it today as good background, as it doesn't really meet contemporary standards of balance, much less objectivity. Not that fiction has to, by any means, but the depiction of Arabs in the movie borders on caricature, and the heroic Zionist settlers trope has worn a bit thin after a generation or two more of scholarship. But yeah, we grew up on this stuff, and Newman makes a hell of a sexy hero for sure.
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:26 pm
by HeinzHarald
ORIGINAL: leftydad
FYI, my grandparents came from Sweden. (To USA)
James Larson
Yeah, a lot of Swedes left for the US a few generations ago. In fact my great grandfather emigrated to the US in the mid 1920s, leaving my 1 or 2 years old grandfather and his mother behind.
- Harald Carlsson
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:41 pm
by VegasOZ
ORIGINAL: TheWombat
ORIGINAL: VegasOZ
The Movie that I know of that gives background is: EXODUS(written by Leon Uris, Stars Paul Newman). It tells the story of Israel up to the establishment of the State and covers some of the early armed conflict. I am not aware of any war movie that depicts any of the major Arab Israeli wars, however.
While this was one of my favorite movies as a kid (book, too), I would hesitate to offer it today as good background, as it doesn't really meet contemporary standards of balance, much less objectivity. Not that fiction has to, by any means, but the depiction of Arabs in the movie borders on caricature, and the heroic Zionist settlers trope has worn a bit thin after a generation or two more of scholarship. But yeah, we grew up on this stuff, and Newman makes a hell of a sexy hero for sure.
I am absolutely opposed to posting ANY kind of political content on this gaming forum and therefore will not challenge your statement.
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:43 pm
by VegasOZ
One of my favorite movies is the "Raid on Entebbe" with Anthony Hopkins (Hannibal). Although it does not depict any of the general middle eastern combat actions it certainly is a great story about an amazing special forces action undertaken by the "Unit".
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:20 pm
by leftydad
Bad Swede!
My Swedish grandmother couldn't adjust to things after she got here, and ended up having electro-shock therapy when they first started using it. Tough world, for sure.
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:37 am
by dudalb_slith
"Cast A Giant Shadow" with Kirk Douglas, is the story of Mickey Marcus,an American West Point Graduate who fought for Israel in the 1948 war. Also features John Wayne,Yul Bryner,and Frank Sinatra in guest roles.
Not that great a movie, but some really nice battles scenes, the battle of Latrun in particular is well done. (This one is featured in the game). Also a nice Elmer Bernstein score.
RE: Any good movies set during these conflicts?
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 1:16 am
by VegasOZ
Yes, I forgot about "Cast A Giant Shadow". I recently watched it, good movie and as far as I know it is pretty much factual as far as the life and actions of the main character.
Good combat scenes involving the Israelis versus the Jordanians as I recall.