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Is this just bad luck or can it be avoided (other than not entering the hex)?

Sometimes happens. Things we can't control like IRL, mines gets out of the field, the ship commander was not informed etc...it is the flavor of the game, learn to enjoy the uncertainty.

Is this in one of your ports?

If so, I'm not sure, but if you place one elsewhere, it's basically a "wild west" minefield subject to anyone hitting it.

It should have been my Port but the Marines took their Time. My Cover TF got hit, crippling a CA sinking a CL and routing the Rest.

I dont need this kind of enjoyment every day 😀.

Will this remain a wild minefield after the base is taken?

No it should revert to a "defensive" minefield.

oh too bad. is it clear in the game if the mine is yours or a enemy sub's one ?

An enemy minefield will remain unknown to you until you start sweeping the hex or hit a mine. Once that happens a "dot" will appear in the hex indicating it has mines (if a dot already exists it is either YOUR minefield OR you previously discovered it). If you are the Japanese and the dot is red, then it is your minefield, if it is NOT red then it is an allied minefield, no matter what vessel dropped the mines... IIRC Allied colors are dependent upon the country that laid the mines. US is green I believe.

A small chance to hit your own minefield when it is in a hex that is not a base of yours. Slight but it happens.

I am US, there is a green dot and no red one and the CL was sunk by a mark 16 (laid the day before) so I am pretty sure I hit my own minefield.

The Invasion TF has some Minesweepers but I am not sure whether they actually sweep in this function. An ASW TF ist steaming around happily in the same hex.

Note to myself: always mine AFTER the invasion

Got it . thanks you

minefields are a bit tricky

A defensive minefield is one laid by you in a port you control
an offensive minefield is one laid by you in a port you don't control

An offensive minefield will have a significant probability of attacking any ship that enters the hex
A defensive minefield will "usually" ignore friendly ships and attack only enemy ships. usually

So far that's straight-forward.

BUT if you lay a defensive minefield in your port and then you lose control of the port it becomes an offensive minefield and will attack everybody

Now I THINK that if you lay an offensive minefield in an enemy port and then you seize control of the port, the minefield becomes defensive and friendly to you. But I am not certain of that

Also any minefield not in a port hex is automatically an offensive minefield.
AND there is some ambiguity about minefields you place in friendly dot hexes; some say the port (1 or greater) is essential and others say control is sufficient.

Mk 16 mine "is" one of yours.

Mines don't attack anything. Ships blunder into them. It appears that if you lay a minefield in a hex you control it may take up to a week before your shipping understands where the lanes are. I base this in part on my own experience but also the experience of others. Do not lay a minefield in an area of operations of any sort or you may be sorry. One reason you might want to create a minefield in a hurry could be you're expecting an enemy surface TF to bombard or interdict. The problem with that, in my experience, is that such surface TFs almost never blunder into minefields when performing bombardment or surface action TF missions, they are too far out to sea. Minefields are useful against amphibious landing TFs but otherwise it's pretty spotty. Don't lay minefields in hexes you expect to have any shipping enter or pass through until it is a well established port in your control.

ORIGINAL: crsutton

A small chance to hit your own minefield when it is in a hex that is not a base of yours. Slight but it happens.

Crsutton, do you mean any non-base hex? As Allies, I have hit my own minefields several times in a non-base shallow water hex adjacent to Allied-owned Palembang. Very frustrating. Then I moved some AMc there and some turns later I saw a message saying to the likes of " AMc X traced a path in the minefield".

The above never happens in base hexes though.

Yeah, never hit one of my own mines in my own base. But my understanding is that an ACM (tender) will on occasion blow up. Don't know if that translates into other ships. I have yet to see it.

Thanks to everyone for the replies.

Didnt have any further problems after base changed sides. One japanese CL made it on the sunk list thanks to a Mk 16, that evens things out a bit.

Are bombrdement TFs more in danger of running at a mine the more the close in?

I have not posted this for a couple of years, seems appropriate now. This in a small museum in southern Maryland.

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I have had the distinct misfortune of a mine layer striking a mine while it was laying the minefield, in a hex that didn't have a previous minefield, and was never enemy controlled. It could only happen to me. [8|]

I guess there is the possibility of it having been a sub laid minefield that wasn't detected, but I don't think it was.