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Cruise Missle control

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:51 pm
by rmwilsonjr
A couple of basic questions about cruise missles: 1. Is it possible to assign a cruise missle to a mission created through the mission editor? If so, how? 2. If cruise missles can only be launched through the attack screen, is it possible to set a course that looks like anything other than what a crow flies? Or, how do you make an off axis strike using cruise missles?

RE: Cruise Missle control

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:13 am
by Dimitris
1. No.

2. Not at the moment, but this ability is under development. Here is an example of our current tests: http://i.imgur.com/MZ8Nypk.png

RE: Cruise Missle control

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:57 pm
by Sigma8510
Awesome!!

RE: Cruise Missle control

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:49 pm
by NakedWeasel
Heh, wicked nasty.

RE: Cruise Missle control

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:55 pm
by ExNusquam
Sunburn, that looks awesome. I don't think this much detail has been put into a simulation of this scope, ever.

RE: Cruise Missle control

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:01 am
by HaughtKarl
Oh my that is awesome!

RE: Cruise Missle control

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:42 am
by rmwilsonjr
Thanks, Sunburn. I'd say it was awesome, but everyone beat me to it. Look forward to seeing it in a future build.

RE: Cruise Missle control

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:03 pm
by travcrouse
Just want to make sure rmwilson is aware that you CAN do a "simplified" off-axis attack with CM's. Once your birds are away, select all the missiles in the volley, hit F3, assign paths/waypoints like you would for any other unit.
Shown below, I just launched some Tomahawks against the Chinese on Woody Island and gave them a path with a couple dog-legs:


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RE: Cruise Missle control

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:32 pm
by NakedWeasel
Gotta love the TACTOM. It's almost "overpowered", in terms of capability.

RE: Cruise Missle control

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:49 am
by rmwilsonjr
Travcruse, how did you do that? I've been trying the F3 button in the Russian Civil War scenario, but nothing happens to the cursor and no new course is laid in. Sunburn's answer to my second question also seems to suggest you are on to something. Anyone have any ideas?

RE: Cruise Missle control

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:59 am
by Dimitris
TACTOM (and SS-N-12/19/22) can already do this in the sim because they have datalinks and are thus under direct player control.

When we're talking about missile waypoints, we are referring to missiles NOT under player control after launch.

RE: Cruise Missle control

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:00 am
by smudge56
Very impressive Sunburn

RE: Cruise Missle control

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:50 pm
by rmwilsonjr
So, just to make sure I have this straight, are you saying it depends on the type of cruise missle I'm shooting whether or not I can control its course thru the F3 button? In the Russian Civil War scenario, my destroyers are loaded with RGM 109C Tomahawk Blk III TLAM-Cs. Looking at the DB, it says "inertial guidance" and under Properties, it says Weapon Pre-briefed Target Only. Are these my clues that these missles are not under my control? Thanks to all who have helped this civilian Recruit understand what is going on here.

RE: Cruise Missle control

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:10 pm
by rmwilsonjr
Not to belabor the point, but I started the Russian Civil War in the Scenario Editor, loaded some RGM 109E TACTOMs on a DDG and fired away. Still no control available through F3. I also see no datalinks showing, so... are my DDG's unable to "talk" to these missles for some reason? Thanks again.

RE: Cruise Missle control

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:24 pm
by Dimitris
Yes, if the datalink is blocked between the missiles and the launching ship (e.g. no LOS) then the missiles will be out of your control.

RE: Cruise Missle control

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:01 am
by snowburn
ORIGINAL: rmwilsonjr

Not to belabor the point, but I started the Russian Civil War in the Scenario Editor, loaded some RGM 109E TACTOMs on a DDG and fired away. Still no control available through F3. I also see no datalinks showing, so... are my DDG's unable to "talk" to these missles for some reason? Thanks again.

maybe this scenario is running with an old database version

RE: Cruise Missle control

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:38 am
by goodwoodrw
Just a question, if the platform that fires missiles which are given waypoints, is sunk what happens to the missiles?

RE: Cruise Missle control

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:35 am
by Dimitris
ORIGINAL: BASB
Just a question, if the platform that fires missiles which are given waypoints, is sunk what happens to the missiles?

If the missile is autonomous or has an optional datalink it just goes on. If it has a mandatory datalink connection to that unit and cannot switch datalink-parent, it self-destructs.