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QE and PoW

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:22 pm
by geofflambert
Just saw this:

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/ ... -1-7089231

I had no idea about these. What cave have I been living in?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Eli ... _Elizabeth

Hot doggy!

RE: QE and PoW

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:20 am
by IslandInland
The carriers should be great. I was excited when I first read they had been ordered some years ago. F-35s have been ordered as air complement but it's a shame the MoD got rid of the Harriers in 2010.



RE: QE and PoW

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:42 am
by m10bob
They sure proved useful during the Falklands campaign.

RE: QE and PoW

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:02 pm
by IslandInland
ORIGINAL: m10bob

They sure proved useful during the Falklands campaign.

Indeed they did. We would have been screwed without them. Truly innovative and fantastic aircraft.


RE: QE and PoW

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:10 pm
by jimh009
I believe the US Marines bought the excess UK Harriers.

RE: QE and PoW

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:33 am
by wdolson
ORIGINAL: jimh009

I believe the US Marines bought the excess UK Harriers.

I thought the USMC Harriers were built under license by McDonnell Douglas? I know the Sea Harrier was a bit different from the USMC Harrier.

Bill

RE: QE and PoW

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:43 am
by Dili
The Harriers for the RAF were close to the US model. Laser range finder instead of radar, the body was also like the American version.

RE: QE and PoW

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:17 am
by wdolson
ORIGINAL: Dili

The Harriers for the RAF were close to the US model. Laser range finder instead of radar, the body was also like the American version.

The AV-8A and RAF Harrier GR.1 were pretty much the same plane. I remember the original Airfix 1/24 Harrier kit had only a few parts difference between the RAF and USMC version.

Bill

RE: QE and PoW

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:14 am
by geofflambert
ORIGINAL: wdolson
ORIGINAL: jimh009

I believe the US Marines bought the excess UK Harriers.

I thought the USMC Harriers were built under license by McDonnell Douglas? I know the Sea Harrier was a bit different from the USMC Harrier.

Bill

I believe it was the other way 'round. The Hawker Sidley Harrier was a purely British aircraft. The AV8-B was a McD-Doug aircraft and the British manufactured some of these under license and may have purchased some more from the US. It is true however that the Hawker-Sidely aircraft inspired the AV-8B and the lessons learned were applied. I believe the Harriers referenced earlier were either produced in Britain/BAE under license or purchased and would have been largely compatible with the Marine version.

I took a high school accelerated class that involved time spent at M-D, I don't recall there being any actual benefits from it. Just PR I think.

RE: QE and PoW

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:05 am
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: wdolson
ORIGINAL: jimh009

I believe the US Marines bought the excess UK Harriers.

I thought the USMC Harriers were built under license by McDonnell Douglas? I know the Sea Harrier was a bit different from the USMC Harrier.

Bill
Must be the skis installed on the British Harriers for their ski-jump takeoff .... [8|]