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OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:19 pm
by dazoline II
As a new year's day treat here's a shot I took from a Christmas visit to a museum in Canada. I was fascinated by the bomb bay depicted here as I had previously only seen bomb bays showing crew compartments open to the bomb bay.
As a reward I'll post a more recognizable shot of this "young lady" after its correctly guessed. Built in Canada this gal didn't fly in the war but many of her sisters did in the Indian theatre.


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RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:47 pm
by Jorge_Stanbury
A Bristol Bolingbroke?

RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:47 pm
by BBfanboy
Looks like a folding wing on the left and three depth charge bombs in the bay, so I am guessing a version of the TBM Avenger, perhaps with a different engine from the US standard one.

RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:51 pm
by Jorge_Stanbury
AFAIK, Avengers were not built in Canada

RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:26 pm
by dazoline II
Nope, not a Bolingbroke.

RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:38 pm
by BBfanboy
Perhaps a Barracuda then?

RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:57 pm
by zuluhour
That Fairly thingy?

RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:15 pm
by BBfanboy
Yes, the Fairey Barracuda. It's carrier based and British, so it could have been used by the CVEs and CVLs that Canada operated. For that matter Canada had Corsairs * on some of its CVLs so there is a case to be made for US aircraft such as the Avenger being in a Canadian Museum.

* IIRC Robert Hampton Gray was flying the Corsair when he won the VC sinking a Japanese DD in port just before Japan surrendered.

RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:40 pm
by dazoline II
Not sure about the Barracuda being flown by Canada but they did have a Swordfish.
FYI those "depth charges" are 500 pounders.

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RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:49 pm
by JeffroK
Lancaster X.

RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:15 pm
by wdolson
That's a much bigger bomb bay than anything ever operated from a carrier. I agree with JeffK, I think it's a Canadian built Lancaster. The Lanc had a long, shallow bomb bay like that.

It's possible it's a Wellington too. That also had a long, shallow bomb bay.

Bill

RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:24 pm
by dazoline II
For the win its a Lanc. X.
This elegant gal didn't see action but is dressed in the wartime colours of RCAF #428 Squadron.




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RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:36 pm
by wdolson
Looks like a Bf-109F or early G to the left. I thought first it was a Bf-108, it looks a little wider than a 109, but it has the wingtips of a 109F or later.

Bill

RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:48 pm
by zuluhour
Bill, I'm beginning to think you are a curator at the Imperial War Museum. [:'(]

RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:59 pm
by JeffroK
ORIGINAL: wdolson

Looks like a Bf-109F or early G to the left. I thought first it was a Bf-108, it looks a little wider than a 109, but it has the wingtips of a 109F or later.

Bill

bf109F-4/Trop

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Av ... ace_Museum

RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:20 pm
by wdolson
ORIGINAL: zuluhour

Bill, I'm beginning to think you are a curator at the Imperial War Museum. [:'(]

I've always been an aircraft geek, I have embarrassed docents at air museums.

Bill

RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:38 am
by pontiouspilot
Museum in Ottawa??....in reply to Dazoline

RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:22 am
by geofflambert
ORIGINAL: wdolson

Looks like a Bf-109F or early G to the left. I thought first it was a Bf-108, it looks a little wider than a 109, but it has the wingtips of a 109F or later.

Bill

I'm sure you are right. I was thinking an FW-190 but the stabilizers are clearly too wide for that.

RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 5:53 am
by Orm
Really nice pictures. Thank you, dazoline II, for sharing. [:)]

RE: OT: What Is This? 2016

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:07 am
by wdolson
ORIGINAL: wdolson

Looks like a Bf-109F or early G to the left. I thought first it was a Bf-108, it looks a little wider than a 109, but it has the wingtips of a 109F or later.

Bill
ORIGINAL: geofflambert
I'm sure you are right. I was thinking an FW-190 but the stabilizers are clearly too wide for that.

The tail and wing are totally different shapes than for a 190. It's definitely a Messerschmitt product.