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Campaign Series vs Squad Battles
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:53 pm
by zasgard
What are the differences between the Squad Battle series over John Tiller's Campaign Series?
I read that not all of the Sqaud Battle games have the 3D view?
I like that the Campaign series has all the nations OOB's in one game.
If someone could help educate this noob on the differences in the games I'd appreciate it.
Thanks!
RE: Campaign Series vs Squad Battles
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:12 pm
by Jason Petho
The John Tiller's Campaign Series (not the John Tiller's Panzer Campaign Series) allows you to move around platoons that are subordinate to companies, battalions all the way up to armies, depending on the complexity of the scenario.
JTCS comes with scenarios for all theatres.
For watching what JTCS is:
JTCS East Front Tutorial.
CS Middle East Bootcamp 3
RE: Campaign Series vs Squad Battles
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:43 am
by zasgard
So....
What's the difference between the Campaign Series and the Panzer Campaign Series?
RE: Campaign Series vs Squad Battles
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:56 am
by Crossroads
I don't own any Panzer Campaigns titles, but they tend to be more on the operational level: Battalions, Regiments as units. Each game title covers a certain operation, or campaign, in detail. They are 2D only as far as I know.
This Campaign Series here has to do with Platoons, and each game covers a Theatre of operations for a long period of time, for instance West Front covering European, Middle East and North Africa scenarios with OoBs from 1930s to early 1950s. 2D and 3D supported, although the 2D views of WW II titles (John Tiller's Campaign Series bundle) is quite small for modern standards.
The Blitz Wargaming Ladder has
active forums for all these games; Squad Battles, Campaign Series and Panzer Campaigns (Tiller Operational Campaigns is the forum name there), so those fora might be good sources for further information, with AAR reports in many of them.
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RE: Campaign Series vs Squad Battles
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:51 pm
by zasgard
Odd, that site has blocked my work ISP
Oh well
RE: Campaign Series vs Squad Battles
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:17 pm
by Jason Petho
Try at home or on your smart phone?
RE: Campaign Series vs Squad Battles
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:28 pm
by Warhorse
Also, the Campaign Series allows you to make maps and everything, unlike the others, my major beef with them...
RE: Campaign Series vs Squad Battles
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:51 pm
by Jafele
Both JTCS and SB are a good choice. I fully recommend you SB: Red Victory. IMO they´re excellent games for PBEM. However if you´re more interested in single player games you should try the adaptative AI of
CS:ME
RE: Campaign Series vs Squad Battles
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:07 pm
by zasgard
Middle East isn't my cup of tea (ww2 fan all the way)
I also do not play PBEM. Strictly solo vs AI
I've heard that Red Victory is the best of the SB series, but if I get JTCS, I don't see why I'd want Red Victory since the CS series covers all theaters of WW2 (unless someone with experience in these titles would like to share why?)

RE: Campaign Series vs Squad Battles
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:23 pm
by Jafele
SB scale is 40 m/hex; JTCS scale is 250 m/hex. So for tank battles JTCS is much better. If you prefer close combat then SB is the best option.
JTCS have hundreds of scenarios, SB:Red victory about 80. The AI is very predictable in both games, only good for learning.
It depends of your preferences, both have positives and negatives but basically are good games.