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[FIXED B826] Large scenario or saved game not loading

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:27 pm
by JPFisher55
I've tried using B817,and then B816, but neither will open the attached scenario nor a saved game of it. It is an extremely large scenario.
Bothe will open smaller scenarios or saved games. I'll attach saved game file that won't open in next post.

RE: Large scenario or saved game not loading

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:30 pm
by JPFisher55
The saved game file won't upload because it is too large.

RE: Large scenario or saved game not loading

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:32 pm
by Gizzmoe
Upload it to http://www.tinyupload.com and post the link here.

RE: Large scenario or saved game not loading

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:51 pm
by ComDev
Yeah the files are so large that the XML parser simply gives up and the somewhat limited 32-bit memory space gets problems.

The solution is to wait until most Command players have moved to 64-bit operating systems so that we can compile the game for x64. Alternatively make smaller scenarios [8D]

RE: Large scenario or saved game not loading

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:07 pm
by Gizzmoe
I actually was able to open and run the scen by setting the Large Address Aware flag in Command.exe using this tool:
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threa ... re.112556/

It is so ridiciously huge though that it runs at 1/7th real-time... :)

RE: Large scenario or saved game not loading

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:39 pm
by thewood1
Really? 9000 units...you continue to waste people's time.

RE: Large scenario or saved game not loading

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:15 pm
by Dimitris
Thanks, we'll see if we can tweak anything in the loading code to handle such ultra-large scens better.

RE: Large scenario or saved game not loading

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:30 pm
by JPFisher55
FWIW, I have played this scenario in previous version without major issues. I didn't make the scenario. It is part of the community scenario pack.

RE: Large scenario or saved game not loading

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:01 am
by michaelm75au
[Programing stuff] As the program evolves, the code memory usage increases, which means that there is less memory for data storage. Using 32-bit addressing limits the total addressable to a fixed value (which looks big), which in the old days was more than sufficient, but modern day systems find 'constraining'.[:D] Opening to 64-bit drastically increases the total addressable memory.

RE: Large scenario or saved game not loading

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:41 pm
by JPFisher55
Ok, no big deal, I'll wait. Thanks for the answers.

RE: Large scenario or saved game not loading

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:37 pm
by thewood1
I just thought there would be lick of common sense with some people. A 9000 unit scenario is basically a world war. And looking at the units in this scenario, it just looks like someone is trying to break the game. A somewhat common occurrence with some people.

RE: Large scenario or saved game not loading

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:03 pm
by zaytsev
ORIGINAL: Gizzmoe

I actually was able to open and run the scen by setting the Large Address Aware flag in Command.exe using this tool:
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threa ... re.112556/

It is so ridiciously huge though that it runs at 1/7th real-time... :)

+1
You sneeky.

Thanks for the tip. I've done that before with few exes , never got an idea to try it on cmano.
Maybe it will help with performance in B817, which is kinda hicky.
thnx

RE: Large scenario or saved game not loading

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:47 am
by Gizzmoe
ORIGINAL: thewood1
I just thought there would be lick of common sense with some people. A 9000 unit scenario is basically a world war. And looking at the units in this scenario, it just looks like someone is trying to break the game. A somewhat common occurrence with some people.

Maybe try to see it in a positive way ;) I find it a very good thing that the game engine is actually capable of running such a huge scen, and it then even only needs around 1GB of memory for that. So there's room for even much larger scens than that. How "useful" or playable that is is a whole different story though, but to each their own.

RE: Large scenario or saved game not loading

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:11 pm
by JPFisher55
Gizzmoe, your linked program worked. Thank you. The scenario runs reasonably well on my computer. What I do is assign missions to all my units and leave the huge scenario running while I do other things on my computer. Then, I check back time to time to make adjustments.

RE: Large scenario or saved game not loading

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:38 pm
by Gizzmoe
You're welcome :)

RE: Large scenario or saved game not loading

Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 4:24 pm
by Dimitris
Improved in Build 826.