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The decline (and revival?) of RTS games (+survey!)

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 1:42 pm
by Tarrok
Hello fellow strategists!


In this thread I’d like to present you a little project of mine, and of course, I want you to participate! :-)

It all began with an extensive discussion with a friend about the reasons for the death of Real-Time Strategy (RTS) games. And while you could easily name the most obvious ones (RTS games not being suitable for consoles, micro-management and macro-management of RTS games splitting up into the more defined genres of MOBAs and Tower Defense respectively, …), we also talked a lot about the things that we don’t like about them. For example, if the setting is not implemented appropriately (e.g. if you use houses in Age of Empires as make-shift wall), or in general: The need to abuse every aspect of the game’s mechanics in order to win (especially online), and thus sacrificing the appropriate implementation of the game’s “metaphor”.

And while I had to agree to many of his points, I’m still convinced that the genre does not necessarily have to be dead yet. Maybe it just lacks some innovation, especially if you take into account that the „golden era” of real-time strategy was almost 20 years ago?

Eventually, all these discussions and thoughts made me want to examine this topic from a more statistical perspective. This lead to a survey that I have created :-) With it, I’m aiming at the following three aspects:

· What is the reason for the decline of real-time-strategy games?

· Which game elements and mechanics did player like, which not?

· What would a new RTS game need (e.g. which old concepts, which new innovations, …), in order to revive the genre of RTS?



Here is the link:

goo.gl/forms/IZfYIrBts4



Naturally, such a survey can only deliver valuable results, if it’s had enough participants. Even though I have just started to spread the survey online, I have received quite a remarkable amount of answers. So it has the potential of really interesting results! :-)


One last thing: I will provide every participant with a refined version of the results. That way it could be even more interesting to take a couple of minutes and participate! J And in my opinion, the topic itself is already interesting enough… don’t we all wish for a new and great RTS game with great production values!?



So, in advance: Thank you for every single participation, I really, really appreciate it! :-)

Of course, this thread can be used to discuss either the topic itself (the decline of RTS games) or the survey in particular



Have fun with the survey! [8D]


Kindest regards,

Tarrok


P.S.: Maybe I should stress again that I’m doing this solely for my love in RTS games, and no university or marketing thing or such whatsoever.

RE: The decline (and revival?) of RTS games (+survey!)

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 4:32 pm
by Kuokkanen
ORIGINAL: Tarrok

It all began with an extensive discussion with a friend about the reasons for the death of Real-Time Strategy (RTS) games.
What the Hell is this? There are new entries in Total War series and I'm damn sure there are other new RTS games coming out. Didn't Graviteam series get new game recently as well? So why talk about this subject instead about death of PC gaming? What, didn't you know PC gaming is dying?

RE: The decline (and revival?) of RTS games (+survey!)

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 5:51 pm
by wings7
ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen
What, didn't you know PC gaming is dying?

It's not dying here!!

RE: The decline (and revival?) of RTS games (+survey!)

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 7:39 pm
by Zap
ORIGINAL: wings7

ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen
What, didn't you know PC gaming is dying?

It's not dying here!!


No more madden football for the PC. For me its dying![;)]

RE: The decline (and revival?) of RTS games (+survey!)

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 9:41 pm
by Aurelian
ORIGINAL: Zap

ORIGINAL: wings7

ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen
What, didn't you know PC gaming is dying?

It's not dying here!!


No more madden football for the PC. For me its dying![;)]

I had to get a PS3 so I could keep playing it....

RE: The decline (and revival?) of RTS games (+survey!)

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 1:01 am
by jamus34
I think the genre got stale. It's not dead (yet) but definitely needs some kind of boost.


RE: The decline (and revival?) of RTS games (+survey!)

Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 5:14 pm
by CGGrognard
It does need some "fresh blood" in the genre. Ultimately the strategies for RTS games became generic preventing room for new ideas.

RE: The decline (and revival?) of RTS games (+survey!)

Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 1:33 pm
by Kuokkanen
ORIGINAL: wings7

ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen
What, didn't you know PC gaming is dying?

It's not dying here!!
Of course not, didn't you notice hint of sarcasm in my post? Anyway I recall reading interview of head of Gas Powered Games, where he told about trouble finding publisher for Supreme Commander. Publishers had said PC gaming is dying, despite Ati and Nvidia breaking sales records with high end graphic adapters meant for gaming

RE: The decline (and revival?) of RTS games (+survey!)

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 5:03 pm
by Kuokkanen
New RTS games coming out. And I guess that's not all of them. What was it about decline?

RE: The decline (and revival?) of RTS games (+survey!)

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 6:22 pm
by wings7
ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen

New RTS games coming out. And I guess that's not all of them. What was it about decline?

Alot to sink you're teeth into (in no particular order)! No decline that I can see! [:)]

RE: The decline (and revival?) of RTS games (+survey!)

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 12:31 am
by aaatoysandmore
ORIGINAL: Zap

ORIGINAL: wings7

ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen
What, didn't you know PC gaming is dying?

It's not dying here!!


No more madden football for the PC. For me its dying![;)]

Or good animated baseball games. Have you seen the latest OotpBB animations? What a laugh.