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Aircraft Present Indicator

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:46 pm
by Meiktila
After expending a fair deal of ordinance on the below pictured airfield none of the aircraft present icons have disappeared.

Does this mean that the standing aircraft were not destroyed? Even on the open tarmac spaces? Or is it possible that my recon just can't inform me?

[the scenario is NF13.1 Shoulder to Shoulder, for those interested]



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RE: Aircraft Present Indicator

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:08 pm
by Maromak
Have you attempted to do some BDA? Do your recon forces have eyes on these targets?

RE: Aircraft Present Indicator

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:23 pm
by HalfLifeExpert
Doesn't that little symbol indicate that the platform is capable of carrying aircraft, not that it has aircraft?

RE: Aircraft Present Indicator

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:24 pm
by lowchi
ORIGINAL: HalfLifeExpert

Doesn't that little symbol indicate that the platform is capable of carrying aircraft, not that it has aircraft?

nope, the symbol only appears when ac's are on them (yours or friendly side) or are spotted (enemy side)

RE: Aircraft Present Indicator

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:27 pm
by lowchi
meiktila: as maromak pointed out, make sure that your recon units hav eyes on the platforms, otherwise you will not know if the ac's are destroyed.

you could also look for yourself in editor mode.

RE: Aircraft Present Indicator

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:05 pm
by Meiktila
ok - thanks - so it is a recon/intel thing, not that the ac are still there (necessarily).

RE: Aircraft Present Indicator

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:18 pm
by Gunner98
Correct, you'll need to run a recon asset past to confirm. You can make some assumptions and probably be accurate and it depends what ordinance you were using. If a high fragmentation such as a CBU then there is a good chance any damage will indicate a kill to the AC.

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RE: Aircraft Present Indicator

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:24 pm
by HalfLifeExpert
you could also take a look at the losses and expenditure page right before weapons release, then check it again after the ordinance detonates to get an idea of what was destroyed.

RE: Aircraft Present Indicator

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:14 pm
by Rory Noonan
I encountered this as well; I got around it by dropping the contact and then doing another recce overflight. Otherwise even if no a/c is spotted the symbol remains. I don't think it's a bug (as it indicates that an aircraft was seen; not that an aircraft is there right now) but it could be confusing.

RE: Aircraft Present Indicator

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:37 pm
by magi
If you select any of those icons..... It will tel you when the last observation was...... I have found they update after the next observable over flight.....

RE: Aircraft Present Indicator

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:47 am
by lowchi
ORIGINAL: apache85

I encountered this as well; I got around it by dropping the contact and then doing another recce overflight. Otherwise even if no a/c is spotted the symbol remains. I don't think it's a bug (as it indicates that an aircraft was seen; not that an aircraft is there right now) but it could be confusing.

You are right. Did a quick testrun, the recon unit updates the status of the platform (Fire/damage) but the symbol remains even if the AC is destroyed.

I´ll do a little research if this is WAD. Otherwise i am gonna report it.


RE: Aircraft Present Indicator

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:54 am
by lowchi
ORIGINAL: magi

If you select any of those icons..... It will tel you when the last observation was...... I have found they update after the next observable over flight.....

Magi: in my test it said that last contact was XX minutes ago, but it wont update even the recon unit has eyes on the platform.

RE: Aircraft Present Indicator

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:47 am
by Rory Noonan
Same result for me there; dropping contact was the only way to get rid of the symbol.

Edit: oops didn't see your other post

RE: Aircraft Present Indicator

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:18 am
by Meiktila
thanks guys, this was driving me nuts but I can also confirm that the only way is to drop the contact. I didn't even think of it as a contact!

RE: Aircraft Present Indicator

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:47 am
by mikmykWS
Nice work guys. Sounds like there isn't a refresh going on. Definitely on our list.

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