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I've been trying to withdraw a Dutch air unit which was scheduled to be withdrawn but everything is greyed out to where I cannot do it. Who can tell me why this is happening? They are currently stationed in Townsville.

Well, AFAIK it should have been disbanded or better withdrawn on a Dutch base with the required amount of supplies. Try to assign it to an Aussie or US command and see if you can at least disband it. What's the situation on Townsville?

http://witp-ae.wikia.com/wiki/Unit_Withdrawal

If not enough supplies are present at a base, the options to withdraw or disband will be shown in red, this means that the planes will not be returned to the pools if the unit is disbanded.

Klink, Oberst

Hm....looks like a US unit to me...

Fred

Just saw it, aye. US Army Airforce. So, should not be a problem if there's the right amount of supplies there. But also should be re-assigned; it is still with ABDA.

Klink, Oberst

It says 13PS (P)/A. I believe you have a fragment. Where is the rest of the unit? Click on the Unit OOB.

Bill

ORIGINAL: wdolson

It says 13PS (P)/A. I believe you have a fragment. Where is the rest of the unit? Click on the Unit OOB.

Bill

Made a quick check; even fragments can be withdrawn/disbanded.

Klink, Oberst

And they will appear in 60 days in my test...



Klink, Oberst

I'm a bit rusty at the mechanics of the game, I haven't played in a while. It's been a weird summer.

Bill

ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink

And they will appear in 60 days in my test...



Klink, Oberst

The OP's unit is a Permanent Withdrawal. I think the fragment issue is the correct one.

I also think it is the fragmented unit issue.
The dead give away is the "Unit OOB" button lit up at the bottom left of the unit..Find where the other part is and try to dissolve it. If it is at a point separate from this unit, you may need bring them together, (which is impossible with some units with more than one type of plane in the same squadron.)

To add further... Yes I agree it is a fragment issue.

I experienced the same issue.

In fact I think that particular unit is one of the 2 - P40 USAAF Squadrons that show up under ABDA command in Australia and must be withdrawn in 1942. They show up in Townsville / Cairns IIRC for a short period of time.

To the original poster.

Look at the unit OOB in mid central bottom left. You should see the "rest of the squadron" identified as existing in Port Moresby or Darwin or wherever you may have transferred them.

Try to disband the fragment first. If that doesn't work try to consolidate all the units in one hex and then disband the unit.

I do not think you can "withdraw" a P (Permanently restricted unit) ~ you have to "disband." IIRC.

You may also want to go into Pilot data and "Transfer to general reserve" the best of the best pilots if any have experience i.e. overall experience in the 60's / 70's. Then those pilots can flush out other units than come on stream.

<<It amounts to the same thing you loose them anyway>>

ORIGINAL: wdolson


I'm a bit rusty at the mechanics of the game, I haven't played in a while. It's been a weird summer.

Bill

Bill, I am surprised. You know you have to take your proper dose of AE to keep focused [:D]....GP

ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink

Just saw it, aye. US Army Airforce. So, should not be a problem if there's the right amount of supplies there. But also should be re-assigned; it is still with ABDA.

Klink, Oberst

The (P) after the squadron name does not mean Permanently Restricted, it means Pursuit - the old US name for a fighter type squadron.
The unit is assigned to ABDA - an unrestricted HQ.

See the picture below for another P-40 unit assigned to ABDA that I have in Port Moresby:

So, how he can get the fragment disbanded at all? If he got enough supply it should work, no?

Klink, Oberst

ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink

So, how he can get the fragment disbanded at all? If he got enough supply it should work, no?

Klink, Oberst

I think the parent unit has to be disbanded first, or the fragment reunited with the parent. I'm not certain, though.

Since P-40s came up, let me (please) pollute this thread with a different question. Do you tend to use P-40 squadrons for training or P-39 squadrons? I used to think the P-39s should be used as trainers. Now I'm not so sure.

There's a similar issue. I used to think Hurricanes were crap and Spitfires the desired type. Their relative performance in this game (for me)has led me to think otherwise. I used to hear that Wildcats weren't very good. Now I think they were perhaps the best US fighter overall and competitive as a carrier fighter at the outset.

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

The (P) after the squadron name does not mean Permanently Restricted, it means Pursuit - the old US name for a fighter type squadron.
The unit is assigned to ABDA - an unrestricted HQ.

See the picture below for another P-40 unit assigned to ABDA that I have in Port Moresby:

While you are correct about Pursuit, that's not the P in the OP's screen shot being discussed. That one is the "Remove by 15 March 1942 P "

ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink

So, how he can get the fragment disbanded at all? If he got enough supply it should work, no?

Klink, Oberst

To my knowledge disbanding or withdrawing air units doesn't depend on supply at all.

oops

ORIGINAL: jwolf

I think the parent unit has to be disbanded first, or the fragment reunited with the parent. I'm not certain, though.

I think / I posted just the other way around. [8D]

I don't think you can disband a parent before the fragment which is why the original poster is having an issue. Its grayed out - not possible.

The OP has screen shot the parent in my opinion ~ based in Townsville and likely has the fragment in Port Moresby or Darwin etc.

The Supply side issue is not germane to this conversation as this unit has a withdrawal date past due i.e. in red. The base supply affects the impact on the disbanding of unit on the pools of planes if doing so before its "best before date"

Here is a few quick search thread recommendations. It covers off all the information posted above

<< Sadly i cannot find the specific thread from Alfred (??) *trademark that outlines disbanding the fragment first then the parent unit ; I could be wrong but I am almost 100% certain it works that way >>

Finally I also was referring to the red P in the original screen shot [:D]

Am I the Only One ?

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I read the Manual

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Strip the pilots....

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