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Cowpens AC Capacity

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:28 pm
by MuguNiner
Greetings,

My OP report notified me that several CVL squadrons just resized from 18 to 9. Reviewing the Cowpens I now have two squadrons of 12 and 9 AC. The Aircraft Capacity/Used is 33/27. Why is it listing 27 used? I have 21 active AC. There are also 9 in reserve. Are the reserves still abort Cowpens? If so, then I should have 30 used. Can someone explain this difference?

Thanks

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RE: Cowpens AC Capacity

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:30 pm
by BillBrown
The first 3 of each air unit that are in reserve do not take up any aircraft capacity.
All of the others in each air unit do take up aircraft capacity. So you have 21 active,
3 in inactive reserve, and 6 that are considered as being in an active reserve role.
Total capacity used is 27.

RE: Cowpens AC Capacity

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:37 pm
by Reg
This is the reason the first three reserve aircraft don't take up aircraft capacity.

Only when the ceiling spaces are full do additional airframes take up hanger space.


[size=-2]USS Lexington Hanger Deck 1941[/size]

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RE: Cowpens AC Capacity

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:45 am
by wdolson
Many of Japan's larger CVs had deep hangers where reserve aircraft were stored in parts. Same practice as American CVs, but a different form of storage.

Bill

RE: Cowpens AC Capacity

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:39 am
by geofflambert
It should be pointed out that, like many things, resizing is optional but the default is on. Don't be surprised by an ops report saying something happened like that that you didn't order (and had the option). Turn all that auto default stuff off at the beginning of the game. I'm not saying that in this case it was a bad idea, but it wasn't your idea. I personally like a 2:1 ratio of fighters to bombers on a CVE but I direct that myself. It's just another of those things like having your ships go into refit when you're trying to get them back to sea, or for the IJA having garrison troops eating up devices and upgrading to new ones when they have absolutely no good reason to.

RE: Cowpens AC Capacity

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:12 pm
by crsutton
I like large squadrons on my Light and escort carriers. So I generally pull off one unit and then resize the other to maximum size allowed. Then I work the carriers in groups with the needed planes mixed in by carrier. Just a personal preference.

RE: Cowpens AC Capacity

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:17 pm
by MuguNiner
Thanks to all!

RE: Cowpens AC Capacity

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:17 am
by TOMLABEL
[size=-2]USS Lexington Hanger Deck 1941[/size]

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This is a Yorktown class hangar deck showing the bow elevator shafts and raised hangar deck catapult. Yorktown or Enterprise early 1942 based on the national insignia of the Lexington's aircraft during this time frame.

TOMLABEL

RE: Cowpens AC Capacity

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:43 am
by Reg

Dang, you can't trust anything on the internet. [8|]

The caption came from the original post - which wasn't that authoritive but had a few great pictures.

(Edit: Looks like they picked up on the aircraft markings as well.... see below) [:(]

Sorry about that. [:(]



RE: Cowpens AC Capacity

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:24 am
by slpatgun
Are you sure? The SBD's are marked as "Scouting 2".[&:]

RE: Cowpens AC Capacity

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:37 am
by bradfordkay
ORIGINAL: slpatgun

Are you sure? The SBD's are marked as "Scouting 2".[&:]

He mentioned the markings of Lexington aircraft in the photo. Planes were sometimes shuffled between squadrons as needed, so this could explain why an SBD from Scouting 2 could be found on a Yorktown class carrier in early '42.

RE: Cowpens AC Capacity

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:40 am
by LoBaron
ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL
[size=-2]USS Lexington Hanger Deck 1941[/size]

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This is a Yorktown class hangar deck showing the bow elevator shafts and raised hangar deck catapult. Yorktown or Enterprise early 1942 based on the national insignia of the Lexington's aircraft during this time frame.

TOMLABEL

And thats one of the reasons I always return here from time to time, even if I went on a sabattical game wise. Awesome, I wonder how small a percentage of people on this planet would notice.