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A-Bomb
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:26 am
by koniu
Game with Docup is moving slowly forward and in next few weeks of gameplay Docup will have first A-Bomb
What effect in game have drooping bomb. I know about VP impact. But how this impacting troops, ships in port, ships in TF, air groups or industry in bombed hex, etc?
RE: A-Bomb
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:22 am
by PaxMondo
There are a couple of AAR's that describe it.
RE: A-Bomb
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:39 am
by Revthought
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
There are a couple of AAR's that describe it.
Do you know which? I don't need a link, just if you know the players off the top of your head. I find myself incredibly curious.
RE: A-Bomb
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:56 pm
by pws1225
In a word, the effect is underwhelming. The greatest impact that I saw in my last PBEM was to manpower (about a 20-30% reduction if I recall correctly) with less damage to industry. And impact on ships, ports, etc. was minimal. I would fear low level strategic bombing more than the an atomic attack.
RE: A-Bomb
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:58 pm
by Revthought
ORIGINAL: pws1225
In a word, the effect is underwhelming. The greatest impact that I saw in my last PBEM was to manpower (about a 20-30% reduction if I recall correctly) with less damage to industry. And impact on ships, ports, etc. was minimal. I would fear low level strategic bombing more than the an atomic attack.
Does it reduce supply/resources/oil stockpiled in the hex?
RE: A-Bomb
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:02 pm
by pws1225
Not that I recall, but I was focused more on the effect on industry and military assets.
RE: A-Bomb
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:04 pm
by Revthought
ORIGINAL: pws1225
Not that I recall, but I was focused more on the effect on industry and military assets.
Yep, sounds like low-level manpower bombings is scarier.
RE: A-Bomb
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:56 pm
by PaxMondo
When I tested them years ago, the effect had a great deal of randomness to it (surprise!). It seemed it could affect anything and everything, so like a firestorm. But sometimes the damage was minimal and other times pretty extensive. Only once did I see a Hiroshima-type disaster ... everything obliterated many factories wiped out entirely. I can't find my notes right now ... still checking.
RE: A-Bomb
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:00 am
by MakeeLearn
Can/has the plane carrying the bomb be shot down?
RE: A-Bomb
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:26 am
by LargeSlowTarget
It can be engaged by CAP, so I would say yes.
Found this in an AAR:
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Morning Air attack on Osaka/Kyoto , at 109,59
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 2
Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 1
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
ATOMIC BOMB hits 1
CAP engaged:
S-310 Hikotai with A6M5c Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
RE: A-Bomb
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:52 am
by Hotei
ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget
It can be engaged by CAP, so I would say yes.
Found this in an AAR:
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Morning Air attack on Osaka/Kyoto , at 109,59
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 2
Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 1
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
ATOMIC BOMB hits 1
CAP engaged:
S-310 Hikotai with A6M5c Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
And in theory the CAP can succeed in making the bomb miss the city proper and hitting more rural areas causing less damage?
RE: A-Bomb
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:38 am
by LargeSlowTarget
If the A-bomb attacks are treated the same way as ordinary bombing attacks, I would expect so. However, there is already a lot of variation in the effectiveness of the A-bombs, even without CAP. So it would be difficult to measure the impact of CAP on the accuracy of A-bomb attacks without a large sample of A-bomb attacks with and without CAP. Given that few games reach August 1945 and the low number of bombs, I don't think anyone has enough data to give a definite answer. Best tactic is to clear the skies over the target base before sending atomic greetings.
RE: A-Bomb
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:25 am
by MakeeLearn
It can be engaged by CAP, so I would say yes.
Thanks. Ive not gotten that far in a game and did not know if it was a normal bombing process or automatic. Good that its a normal bombing process.