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Currently playing and posting in the AAR section Divided Ground: Valley of Tears, Opening Round.

In that forum I posted a question on why "all" the units are visible to each side even when there is no LOS to a unit.

Playing Hotseat, all optional rules selected except "extreme fog of war".

I restarted the same scenario, same options, only this time with Extreme Fog of War" selected.....same result.

Any clue?

Bootlegger267

Please post your .btt file here, as a .zip file. We will look into it.

.btl file and screen shots attached


Syrian Turn 1 Screen Shot.....Why are the Israeli units visible?

.BTL file attached with screen shots.......

There are at least two different ways to play H2H (Head-to-Head).

Can you describe to me exactly the steps you take to start your H2H game? For example:

[*]At the Middle East.exe frontend launcher, what exactly is the sequence of buttons you press? Please be thorough. Don't miss a step.
[*]When the game launches, what exactly are the dialog boxes you see? Which options do you select? Again, please be thorough. Don't miss a step.

The BTL file you attached. Is that the very first save file at the beginning of your test H2H game? And did you start this test game exactly as you did your earlier H2H game(s)?

I think I know what is going on here. But I would like to have this additional info first.

1) From the frontend launcher I pressed Play Game.

2) Play Scenario

3) Standard........(And NOW I see it!) I should be selecting "HOT SEAT"!

4) Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Jezzzzz what a simple mistake.......

For as long as I've been playing the Campaign Series (since the TalonSoft days) I never saw/used the "Hot Seat" option.

Thanks!

LOL! Five or so years ago, upon returning to the Campaign Series after a long hiatus (I too go as far back as the TalonSoft days), I made that very same mistake. Yes, select Hot Seat (and maybe also, your choice, Extreme Fog-of-War in the Optional Rules dialog), then FOW unit concealment should be WAD. Sorry for the confusion. Good luck.

Hot Seat is very nice, I use it a lot. I guess having grown accustomed to having often no one to boardgame against, solo play was always OK as well [:)]

For instance when I create new scenarios I always Hot Seat game them first, before asking anyone to play test them [:)]

Another H2H option: If you have a LAN and two networked PCs handy, you can play vs. yourself over the network, using "Modem Host", "Modem Caller". I do that from time to time for QA and debugging purposes.

(Still another option: Play vs. yourself using "Play-by-E-Mail". [:'(] )

ORIGINAL: berto


LOL! Five or so years ago, upon returning to the Campaign Series after a long hiatus (I too go as far back as the TalonSoft days), I made that very same mistake. Yes, select Hot Seat (and maybe also, your choice, Extreme Fog-of-War in the Optional Rules dialog), then FOW unit concealment should be WAD. Sorry for the confusion. Good luck.

Literally kicking myself! lmao!![:)]



I actually did try using the Extreme Fog of War option while still selecting 'Standard" and all the units still appeared. (Divided Ground Scenario: Valley of Tears: Opening Round)

Check that out.

Bootlegger267[:)]

Extreme Fog-of-War takes FOW to the, um, extreme if you have implicitly activated basic FOW by selecting one or the other side as non "Manual" in the A/I Selection dialog. Extreme Fog-of-War in and of itself does not activate FOW. That's the confusing part.