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Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 10:48 am
by STEF78
Back to the dark side (nothing to see with the current french poll [;)])

I play the axis side for the first time for at least a year. So I'm rather rusty.

Mild blizzard, random weather, +1 bonus for Russia, limited sea invasion, no paradrops.

We will begin on turn 4.

North / Center

My first aim was to breach the landbridge. It's done. Russian army tries to build a line from Pskov to Smolensk.

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South

Classical Lvov Pocket. I sent 2/3 of Pzg Guderian in the South. Some interesting encirclements.

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The losses
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RE: Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 3:23 pm
by bigbaba
Very interesting. no rush for Leningrad. or will you try the right hook strategy?

RE: Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 4:41 pm
by EwaldvonKleist
Looking forward to another one of your AARs.

RE: Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 6:47 pm
by STEF78
ORIGINAL: bigbaba

Very interesting. no rush for Leningrad. or will you try the right hook strategy?
I usually drived hard through Pskov and Novgorod and wanted to try somenthing else.

We are only turn 8 so no spoil

RE: Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 6:47 pm
by STEF78
ORIGINAL: EwaldvonKleist

Looking forward to another one of your AARs.
Thanks

Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 6:49 pm
by STEF78
turn 4 after my moves in the center. Russian units South of VK are in great danger. See in Riga the Pzd arriving from the south

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RE: Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 7:17 pm
by bigbaba
ORIGINAL: STEF78

ORIGINAL: bigbaba

Very interesting. no rush for Leningrad. or will you try the right hook strategy?
I usually drived hard through Pskov and Novgorod and wanted to try somenthing else.

We are only turn 8 so no spoil


always great to see new ways and tactics in new AAR's. Maybe blitzing Moscow is the new trend.:)

RE: Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:09 am
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: STEF78

turn 4 after my moves in the center. Russian units South of VK are in great danger. See in Riga the Pzd arriving from the south

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This looks very familiar Stef78 ;-P

RE: Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 5:33 am
by STEF78
ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

This looks very familiar Stef78 ;-P

True! i'm always open to bright ideas.

I used 2nd Pzg one more turn in the South. It allowed me to grasp some extra units near kiev. and i'm surely less keen on logistics than you [;)]

RE: Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 6:34 am
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: STEF78

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

This looks very familiar Stef78 ;-P

True! i'm always open to bright ideas.

I used 2nd Pzg one more turn in the South. It allowed me to grasp some extra units near kiev. and i'm surely less keen on logistics than you [;)]

You are doing very well for turn 4 :) I'm ready to see some more of your eye candy on this AAR. As always it is a pleasure reading your well done AAR's :)

RE: Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 1:33 pm
by sillyflower
Good to see all that elan on show Stef

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Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 3:13 pm
by bigbaba
i guess HardLuckYetAgain sets the standards for axis gameplay. he is the new pelton but more friendly.:)

RE: Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 3:29 pm
by EwaldvonKleist
One has to credit Pelton for showing what he did in AARs while Hardluck only did so recently.
I think the consensus was that MichealT is the best both at Germans and Soviet but Hardlucks tweaks to the Moscow first approach are excellent as well.

RE: Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 5:59 pm
by STEF78
ORIGINAL: bigbaba

... but more friendly...
+1

RE: Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 6:00 pm
by STEF78
ORIGINAL: EwaldvonKleist

One has to credit Pelton for showing what he did in AARs while Hardluck only did so recently.
I think the consensus was that MichealT is the best both at Germans and Soviet but Hardlucks tweaks to the Moscow first approach are excellent as well.
I never played Michail T but I also think that he is the best player I've seen on this forum.


RE: Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 3:12 pm
by Stelteck
Hi.
As i'am allowed to post here thanks to Steph, a small word from the soviet forces :

We will prevail !!! [:D]

Now real informations :

In this game i decided to be very flexible in the opening. So i did not started with a specific plan.
I did not rail troops from south to north in the opening or things like that.

My purpose was to aim for the long term. I was not confident in my ability to defend something that the german really wanted (especially in case of moscow rush or things like that).

So i did not wanted to commit everything (and loose everything) to defend a critical objective from start, like moscow or lenigrad.

There are no critical objectives. Except Stalingrad of course.

Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 6:07 pm
by STEF78
Turn 5, 17th July 1941

In the center, russian troops are retreating....

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... but not fast enough near VK.

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In the South, I wasn't enough careful and Stelteck is able to create a nasty corridor

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Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 7:52 am
by STEF78
turn 6, 24th july 1941

Stelteck gives ground in order to avoid encirclement. I do my best to keep pressure on.

Center

Pocketed units are abandoned to their fate.

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I drive as hard as possible in the direction of Moscow

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South

Retreat in order of russian units

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Nothing subtile because of fuel shortage, I hammer Kirivograd

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RE: Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 8:44 am
by topeverest
I look forward to learning a few secrets

RE: Frozen frogs! Stef78 (axis) Stelteck (Russia) - Stelteck welcome

Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 11:18 am
by Stelteck
At this level of the game, i was quite happy with the situation south where i had some options to delay the ennemy.

Center was in difficult situation, with not much i could do.

North quite peacefull, for now.

Factories evacuation looked good. I especially evacuated first 100% vehicules and the full T-34 factory of karkhov. (But this last one will not be so usefull as i discovered that separate tank bataillon mostly use light tanks, and so i have no use of spare T-34 [:'(]. And my light tank production is very small for know. Damn soviet planners !!!).

Last point.
I really love playing with the +1 soviet attack bonus(mild blizzard). It changes the mindset of the game for both of us in my opinion.
Instead of thinking "i'am doomed" let's mitigate the damage, i have tactical option to bite my ennemy and it make a game much more fun. I can think of limited counter attack.
The german also have to be carefull.

What is funny is when i performed some local counter attack, i discovered that in fact, the +1 bonus was not needed as my victory odds were better than > 2.0. So it was mostly a psychological help. But psychology change everything as i can try things that i would have considered too risky without it.