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Another Win 10 upgrade issue...

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:48 pm
by ChezDaJez
I upgrade from Windows 7.1 to Windows 10 recently. At first, I had horrible lag problems with the cursor, etc... but the -deepcolor switch fixed that.

However, I also have a different problem that I haven't heard mentioned. While playing the game, it frequently minimizes the game to the taskbar or occasionally to a very small window in the upper left showing just the name of the game. Most often, I am not able to access the taskbar to reselect the game. This happens regardless of whether I am inputting orders or watching a combat replay. The small window displays no icons to restore the window to full size. I have to open the Task Manager and then close it to get access to the taskbar again. Sometimes the screen will flash as I access the game icon in the taskbar. And very frequently, it just minimizes again as soon as the game reappears. The love the game and it is unplayable for me. It is very frustrating especially as I was one of the researchers and playtesters for AE years ago.

CPU- I7 4790
Video: MSI GTX1070
HD: Dual 500gb SSDs
Memory: 32gb
Montior: Acer 28" UHD
Resolution 3840 x 2160

Any thoughts would be greatly appreaciated.

Chez

RE: Another Win 10 upgrade issue...

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:17 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: ChezDaJez

I upgrade from Windows 7.1 to Windows 10 recently. At first, I had horrible lag problems with the cursor, etc... but the -deepcolor switch fixed that.

However, I also have a different problem that I haven't heard mentioned. While playing the game, it frequently minimizes the game to the taskbar or occasionally to a very small window in the upper left showing just the name of the game. Most often, I am not able to access the taskbar to reselect the game. This happens regardless of whether I am inputting orders or watching a combat replay. The small window displays no icons to restore the window to full size. I have to open the Task Manager and then close it to get access to the taskbar again. Sometimes the screen will flash as I access the game icon in the taskbar. And very frequently, it just minimizes again as soon as the game reappears. The love the game and it is unplayable for me. It is very frustrating especially as I was one of the researchers and playtesters for AE years ago.

CPU- I7 4790
Video: MSI GTX1070
HD: Dual 500gb SSDs
Memory: 32gb
Montior: Acer 28" UHD
Resolution 3840 x 2160

Any thoughts would be greatly appreaciated.

Chez
My anti-virus minimizes my game when it accesses the internet, presumably to download updates. If it gets too annoying I just unplug my router/modem. BTW, I am on Win 7.

RE: Another Win 10 upgrade issue...

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:46 pm
by geofflambert
If you have your desktop background in slideshow format, that'll do it everytime it changes. I had mine going every 5 minutes which was a pain, so I've changed it to once an hour. Also, when my taskbar clock changed the clock shows above the game map but the map usually doesn't minimize. I don't unplug the modem, I just turn off my browser. Also I have a screenshot program that uses function key 6 (it overrides the game use for that key) so when I want to to something else without closing the game out I just take a screenshot and the game subsequently minimizes.

RE: Another Win 10 upgrade issue...

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:04 pm
by Admiral DadMan
It also sounds like you're running full screen, which I will experience that as well if I don't minimize all other programs. Now I run it mostly in Windowed mode.

RE: Another Win 10 upgrade issue...

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:23 pm
by inqistor
ORIGINAL: ChezDaJez

However, I also have a different problem that I haven't heard mentioned. While playing the game, it frequently minimizes the game to the taskbar or occasionally to a very small window in the upper left showing just the name of the game. Most often, I am not able to access the taskbar to reselect the game. This happens regardless of whether I am inputting orders or watching a combat replay. The small window displays no icons to restore the window to full size.

I have similar issue, even this small window, it seems background tends to appear over the game. I am pretty sure, that when I can not access taskbar, WitPAE is still running in main window, it just don't show it. Try to alt-TAB back to game. Mine appear back after 10-15 seconds of inactivity. Not really playable, but definitely game do not hangs, just have problem with background creeping. I have this issue on new laptop, with WINDOWS 10 preinstalled.

RE: Another Win 10 upgrade issue...

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:44 am
by Chris21wen
ORIGINAL: Admiral DadMan

It also sounds like you're running full screen, which I will experience that as well if I don't minimize all other programs. Now I run it mostly in Windowed mode.


Me to. I did have the same problems but never since I run in a window.

RE: Another Win 10 upgrade issue...

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:52 am
by m10bob
My CPU came with win10 factory installed and as of an update maybe a month ago, the taskbar at the bottom will show over the full screen map..Rather than go to windows mode for the game, I just chose the option to hide the taskbar, which I can still see if I just move the cursor to the bottom edge of the desktop when not playing the game.

At least it's not the debacle we got with win 3.1, lol

(autoexec.bat....config.sys....HIMEM)

RE: Another Win 10 upgrade issue...

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:29 am
by VPaulus
It could be also related with the last Windows 10, the Creators Edition.
In the compatibility tab you have a new option named "Disable Full-Screen optimization", tick it to disable the new feature.
https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/overwat ... 7615463161

RE: Another Win 10 upgrade issue...

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:49 am
by Uncivil Engineer
ORIGINAL: m10bob

My CPU came with win10 factory installed and as of an update maybe a month ago, the taskbar at the bottom will show over the full screen map..Rather than go to windows mode for the game, I just chose the option to hide the taskbar, which I can still see if I just move the cursor to the bottom edge of the desktop when not playing the game.

At least it's not the debacle we got with win 3.1, lol

(autoexec.bat....config.sys....HIMEM)

You can also drag the taskbar to the left or right side. You get a vertical taskbar and it still hides part of the map (in full screen), but not the critical game info along the bottom edge.

RE: Another Win 10 upgrade issue...

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:54 am
by Capt Cliff
ORIGINAL: VPaulus

It could be also related with the last Windows 10, the Creators Edition.
In the compatibility tab you have a new option named "Disable Full-Screen optimization", tick it to disable the new feature.
https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/overwat ... 7615463161

My machine just did a WIN 10 update and now WitP gives me a "can't set screen mode" error! I tried the "disable full-screen" switch with no joy!

"C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\Beta2\War in the Pacific Admiral Edition.exe" -dd_sw -deepColor -px1600 -py900 -cpu2 -archive -autosave

This is the command line I use. I even reset the pixel to 1074 x 768 and still no joy!! Anybody help me?

RE: Another Win 10 upgrade issue...

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:31 pm
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: VPaulus

It could be also related with the last Windows 10, the Creators Edition.
In the compatibility tab you have a new option named "Disable Full-Screen optimization", tick it to disable the new feature.
https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/overwat ... 7615463161


This one seems to have helped me a lot...Thank you!

RE: Another Win 10 upgrade issue...

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:21 am
by VPaulus
@Capt Cliff
Try playing in windowed mode instead:

"C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\Beta2\War in the Pacific Admiral Edition.exe" -w -dd_sw -deepColor -px1600 -py900 -cpu2 -archive -autosave

RE: Another Win 10 upgrade issue...

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:22 pm
by Capt Cliff
ORIGINAL: VPaulus

@Capt Cliff
Try playing in windowed mode instead:

"C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\Beta2\War in the Pacific Admiral Edition.exe" -w -dd_sw -deepColor -px1600 -py900 -cpu2 -archive -autosave


I found that WIN 10 update corrupted some system file that prevented anyone from changing the resolution, the resolution was under intensified in the settings display menu. I ran a system file check and the problem is now gone. FYI

RE: Another Win 10 upgrade issue...

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:31 pm
by zakblood
it can and does happen, most still install updates with AV on, when it's always best to disable until reboot, running offline with the update downloaded, same as turning off screensaver and just turn off the monitor until it's done, a repair doesn't take long on a good HD, faster still on a SDD, but way quicker on a fresh install of windows...

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https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/instantanswers/bd832f07-1420-0c14-d2a5-0a5a24ba40be/using-system-file-checker-in-windows-10

System File Checker is a utility available in Windows 10 that checks for system file corruption. It's recommended for advanced users. To run it:
Select Start  , and in the search box, enter Command Prompt. Press and hold (or right-click) Command Prompt (Desktop app) from the search results and select Run as administrator.
Enter sfc /scannow (note the space between "sfc" and "/").

RE: Another Win 10 upgrade issue...

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:49 pm
by VPaulus
ORIGINAL: zakblood
System File Checker is a utility available in Windows 10 
... and in other the Windows versions. [;)]