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OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:38 pm
by Chickenboy
Recently went to Corpus Christi, Texas with the family on vacation. While there, we spent a fair amount of time on the CV-16, USS Lexington. This was, of course, the Essex-class 'reboot' that served with distinction in the PTO during WWII and served in active duty until 1991(!)
What follows will be pictures from inside the ship where they had a very impressive model collection. First to guess correctly will result in the next picture being loaded. Be as detailed in your guess as you can for proper 'credit'. If you guess A6M2 and it's an A6M5, you get zip. [:D]
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:43 pm
by Chickenboy
Start things off with a pretty easy one. [8D]
Name that Plane.
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:54 pm
by AW1Steve
TBD-1 Devastor.
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:01 pm
by Chickenboy
Correct. You're a ringer with these, so I'll kick it up a notch. Just for you. [8D]
Name that plane:
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:06 pm
by AW1Steve
Looks like a Martin B-57 , the licensed version of the British Canberra. Obviously it's in SE Asia colors....Vietnam era.
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:07 pm
by AW1Steve
By the way , there's a RVNAF Huey behind it , only the tail rotor is visible.
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:09 pm
by AW1Steve
And the tip-tank is from either a F-104 Star Fighter or a T-33 trainer (shooting star). It looks more like the T-33 , but the markings surprise me. I didn't know there were any in Vietnam. Must be a base "hack".
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:11 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: AW1Steve
Looks like a Martin B-57 , the licensed version of the British Canberra. Obviously it's in SE Asia colors....Vietnam era.
Shows you what I know. I didn't know we licensed this plane at all, so was surprised to see it in American colors / insignia. [X(][&:]
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:11 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: AW1Steve
Looks like a Martin B-57 , the licensed version of the British Canberra. Obviously it's in SE Asia colors....Vietnam era.
B-57G "Canberra". Aye.
Shows you what I know. I didn't know we licensed this plane at all, so was surprised to see it in American colors / insignia. [X(][&:]
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:16 pm
by AW1Steve
The USAF didn't have a decent light/medium bomber for the intruder role and was still using the A-26 (relabeled during the Korean war as the B-26, this creates all kinds of confusion between USAAF/USAF veterans . I usually say the "Marauder" and the "Invader--later counter Invader). The B-57 would keep that role , and as a WRB-57 in a super high altitude version for both the USAF and NASA. I think the NASA version still exists. [:)]
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:17 pm
by Chickenboy
Last one for the day. Good luck with this one! [:'(]
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:18 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: AW1Steve
The USAF didn't have a decent light/medium bomber for the intruder role and was still using the A-26 (relabeled during the Korean war as the B-26, this creates all kinds of confusion between USAAF/USAF veterans . I usually say the "Marauder" and the "Invader--later counter Invader). The B-57 would keep that role , and as a WRB-57 in a super high altitude version for both the USAF and NASA. I think the NASA version still exists. [:)]
What about the FB-111?
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:24 pm
by robrown1
Henschel Hs 129
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:27 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: robrown1
Henschel Hs 129
Aye. Version/model type?
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:28 pm
by AW1Steve
Okay , the main subject is tough. My 1st thought is a variation of the Herschel 129. The two bladed prop is weird , but everything else fits, so that's what I'll go with.
Also in the photo is a He-111, P-39 . JU-52, Beach Stagger wing, F6F and JU-87. And a ME-110. There's a tail section of a P-38 in the lower left. [:)]
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:31 pm
by JeffroK
The RAAF also used the Canberra over South Vietnam, replacing the tip tanks with (at least) a 500lber and flew precision night bombing.
Joe Baugher's bit on the B57
http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_bombers/b57.html
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:36 pm
by AW1Steve
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: AW1Steve
The USAF didn't have a decent light/medium bomber for the intruder role and was still using the A-26 (relabeled during the Korean war as the B-26, this creates all kinds of confusion between USAAF/USAF veterans . I usually say the "Marauder" and the "Invader--later counter Invader). The B-57 would keep that role , and as a WRB-57 in a super high altitude version for both the USAF and NASA. I think the NASA version still exists. [:)]
What about the FB-111?
The FB-111 was a bomber version of the F-111. There was only one squadron , the 509th BG , based at Pease AFB. (I spent a LOY of time looking at them as a kid). The F-111 was supposed to be an "all-in-one" plane , but caused no end of problems. The Developmental squadron that went to Vietnam lost 7 planes in very short order. The were with drawn from combat. (I still recall Time magazine having a cartoon with one having the "Stars and Bars" replaced with "The lemon and bars".
The B-66 was an USAF version of the Navy A-3 Sky warrior (a heavy attack CV bomber used mainly in the Nuclear delivery role. I recall some of the last couple stenciled with "Handle with care ,Property of the Smithsonian". Another had "save the whales" stenciled on it , a attribute to the Name the crews called it -"The Whale").
So the USAF really didn't have a good "night intruder" to replace the B-57, and that's why it stayed in service so long. [:)]
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:43 pm
by AW1Steve
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: robrown1
Henschel Hs 129
Aye. Version/model type?
I'm going to bet B-1. (The one with the French engines) . Whatever it is , it's very early. Maybe a prototype.
Sorry Andre, I don't know German ww2 Air craft as well as I should. [:(]
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:48 pm
by AW1Steve
ORIGINAL: AW1Steve
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: robrown1
Henschel Hs 129
Aye. Version/model type?
I'm going to bet B-1. (The one with the French engines) . Whatever it is , it's very early. Maybe a prototype.
Sorry Andre, I don't know German ww2 Air craft as well as I should. [:(]
OK, I had to research it. It's a Herschel-129-A0
RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:02 pm
by Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: AW1Steve
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: AW1Steve
The USAF didn't have a decent light/medium bomber for the intruder role and was still using the A-26 (relabeled during the Korean war as the B-26, this creates all kinds of confusion between USAAF/USAF veterans . I usually say the "Marauder" and the "Invader--later counter Invader). The B-57 would keep that role , and as a WRB-57 in a super high altitude version for both the USAF and NASA. I think the NASA version still exists. [:)]
What about the FB-111?
The FB-111 was a bomber version of the F-111. There was only one squadron , the 509th BG , based at Pease AFB. (I spent a LOY of time looking at them as a kid). The F-111 was supposed to be an "all-in-one" plane , but caused no end of problems. The Developmental squadron that went to Vietnam lost 7 planes in very short order. The were with drawn from combat. (I still recall Time magazine having a cartoon with one having the "Stars and Bars" replaced with "The lemon and bars".
The B-66 was an USAF version of the Navy A-3 Sky warrior (a heavy attack CV bomber used mainly in the Nuclear delivery role. I recall some of the last couple stenciled with "Handle with care ,Property of the Smithsonian". Another had "save the whales" stenciled on it , a attribute to the Name the crews called it -"The Whale").
So the USAF really didn't have a good "night intruder" to replace the B-57, and that's why it stayed in service so long. [:)]
Sorry, I meant F-111A. It saw quite a bit of service in Vietnam (mostly via Thailand, IIRC)