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OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:17 am
by adarbrauner
First time I saw it, and ways too nice not to post.....

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RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:25 am
by Leandros

Nice - which ones would the ships behind her be?

Fred

RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:52 am
by geofflambert
Here's my guesses on the flattops. No guesses on the BBs.

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RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:04 am
by Major Shane
ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Here's my guesses on the flattops. No guesses on the BBs.

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Great picture,thanks for sharing. Do you know what the large cylindrical drum is at the bottom right of the island? It located between some circular antennas.

Shane

RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:43 am
by John 3rd
Great Picture.

RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:58 am
by adarbrauner
Range Finder - Fire Direction/Control Station I guess, for the AA...

RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:12 am
by MakeeLearn
"Akagi at Staring Bay on March 26, 1942. She has just left Celebes Is. for the Attack on Colombo, the rest of the Kido Butai are with her."


https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic ... age-heavy/

RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:16 am
by MakeeLearn
1-"Aircraft carrier Akagi shortly after leaving Port Stirling, Celebes for the Indian Ocean, 26 March 1942. Note other carriers and battleships (probably the 4 ships of the Kongo-class) in the background."

2-"flight deck scene HIJMS Akagi in 1942.

Unusual colourised photo of Akagi(Above), clearly showing splinter protection to the bridge area. It is slightly confusing, I know, but this is a view looking AFT along the flight deck, Akagi being rare in having her island on the port side. There is a very powerful force of ships astern of Akagi in this photo, with four other carriers and four capital ships visible. The second carrier, the one immediately ahead of the four battleships, also has a port side island, which identifies her as Hiryu. I am assuming this photo was taken during the preparations for the operation intended to destroy the remainder of the US fleet and capture Midway, which took place in June 1942. Akagi and Hiryu were both among the Japanese carriers lost at Midway."


3-"Photograph taken from the deck of Akagi, the rest of the carriers, from left to right, are: Kaga, Shokaku, Zuikaku, Hiryu ..."

4-"Other ships visible:

CarDiv 2 (Soryu, Hiryu)
3rd Battleship Squadron (Kongo, Haruna, Hiei, Kirishima)
CarDiv 5 (Shokaku, Zuikaku)"


https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/769130442581564408/
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RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:35 am
by MakeeLearn
"Cruiser Chōkai firing her 120 and 203mm guns against Allied ships during the Indian ocean raid, minutes later she sank the American freighter Bienville, and later on, the British steamship Ganges."


http://www.combinedfleet.com/chokai_t.htm
(CHOKAI at target practice in 1938)

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RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:34 pm
by Rising-Sun
Interesting photos here. Thank for sharing that with us.

RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:37 pm
by warspite1
ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

"Cruiser Chōkai firing her 120 and 203mm guns against Allied ships during the Indian ocean raid, minutes later she sank the American freighter Bienville, and later on, the British steamship Ganges."

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warspite1

The caption on the picture suggests otherwise - that this is from 1938. The Combined Fleet website states that this is a gunnery exercise in that year too.

RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:49 pm
by MakeeLearn
ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

"Cruiser Chōkai firing her 120 and 203mm guns against Allied ships during the Indian ocean raid, minutes later she sank the American freighter Bienville, and later on, the British steamship Ganges."

warspite1

The caption on the picture suggests otherwise - that this is from 1938. The Combined Fleet website states that this is a gunnery exercise in that year too.



That's why I posted that pic... error? ; as with the 4 statements on the other pic. For analysis, even of mistakes.[:)]

http://www.ww2incolor.com/japan/4e89d4a5.html
https://www.pinterest.se/pin/320881542186735389/

RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:57 pm
by MakeeLearn

RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:12 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

Range Finder - Fire Direction/Control Station I guess, for the AA...
That "drum like structure" looks like a larger version of the searchlight just above it - presumably to light up the flight deck for night ops.

RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:37 pm
by Major Shane
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

Range Finder - Fire Direction/Control Station I guess, for the AA...
That "drum like structure" looks like a larger version of the searchlight just above it - presumably to light up the flight deck for night ops.
Thanks for answering. I'm retired Army, still learning about ships.

RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:21 am
by Admiral DadMan
ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

1-"Aircraft carrier Akagi shortly after leaving Port Stirling, Celebes for the Indian Ocean, 26 March 1942. Note other carriers and battleships (probably the 4 ships of the Kongo-class) in the background."

2-"flight deck scene HIJMS Akagi in 1942.

Unusual colourised photo of Akagi(Above), clearly showing splinter protection to the bridge area. It is slightly confusing, I know, but this is a view looking AFT along the flight deck, Akagi being rare in having her island on the port side. There is a very powerful force of ships astern of Akagi in this photo, with four other carriers and four capital ships visible. The second carrier, the one immediately ahead of the four battleships, also has a port side island, which identifies her as Hiryu. I am assuming this photo was taken during the preparations for the operation intended to destroy the remainder of the US fleet and capture Midway, which took place in June 1942. Akagi and Hiryu were both among the Japanese carriers lost at Midway."


3-"Photograph taken from the deck of Akagi, the rest of the carriers, from left to right, are: Kaga, Shokaku, Zuikaku, Hiryu ..."

4-"Other ships visible:

CarDiv 2 (Soryu, Hiryu)
3rd Battleship Squadron (Kongo, Haruna, Hiei, Kirishima)
CarDiv 5 (Shokaku, Zuikaku)"


https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/769130442581564408/
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If this was taken March 26, 1942 at Staring Bay Java, then Kaga couldn't be in this photo. She was at Sasebo, about to enter drydock on March 27.

Based on the low freeboard profiles of the two left-most carriers, I'd have to agree that they are Soryu and Hiryu, with Shokaku/Zuikaku bringing up the rear. The heavies do indeed appear to be the four Kongo class of BatDiv3.

RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:24 pm
by scout1
ORIGINAL: Admiral DadMan

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

1-"Aircraft carrier Akagi shortly after leaving Port Stirling, Celebes for the Indian Ocean, 26 March 1942. Note other carriers and battleships (probably the 4 ships of the Kongo-class) in the background."

2-"flight deck scene HIJMS Akagi in 1942.

Unusual colourised photo of Akagi(Above), clearly showing splinter protection to the bridge area. It is slightly confusing, I know, but this is a view looking AFT along the flight deck, Akagi being rare in having her island on the port side. There is a very powerful force of ships astern of Akagi in this photo, with four other carriers and four capital ships visible. The second carrier, the one immediately ahead of the four battleships, also has a port side island, which identifies her as Hiryu. I am assuming this photo was taken during the preparations for the operation intended to destroy the remainder of the US fleet and capture Midway, which took place in June 1942. Akagi and Hiryu were both among the Japanese carriers lost at Midway."


3-"Photograph taken from the deck of Akagi, the rest of the carriers, from left to right, are: Kaga, Shokaku, Zuikaku, Hiryu ..."

4-"Other ships visible:

CarDiv 2 (Soryu, Hiryu)
3rd Battleship Squadron (Kongo, Haruna, Hiei, Kirishima)
CarDiv 5 (Shokaku, Zuikaku)"


https://nl.pinterest.com/pin/769130442581564408/
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If this was taken March 26, 1942 at Staring Bay Java, then Kaga couldn't be in this photo. She was at Sasebo, about to enter drydock on March 27.

Based on the low freeboard profiles of the two left-most carriers, I'd have to agree that they are Soryu and Hiryu, with Shokaku/Zuikaku bringing up the rear. The heavies do indeed appear to be the four Kongo class of BatDiv3.


For those who think the first two carriers are the Soryu and Hiryu ..... Why are the Islands on different sides of each vessel ? Unless the second one is traveling in the opposite direction to ram the battlewagon ;>

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RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:51 pm
by geofflambert
Huh? Soryu and Hiryu are not sister ships. Soryu had the island to starboard.

RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:02 pm
by scout1
ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Huh? Soryu and Hiryu are not sister ships. Soryu had the island to starboard.


Actually they were sister ships of the Soryu class .... Odd, they made such a radical change as to the Island .... I'm guess somebody misread the plans during construction .... ;>

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RE: OT: Inedited picture of Japan Navy Power at Sea

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:04 pm
by Admiral DadMan
ORIGINAL: scout1

ORIGINAL: Admiral DadMan

If this was taken March 26, 1942 at Staring Bay Java, then Kaga couldn't be in this photo. She was at Sasebo, about to enter drydock on March 27.

Based on the low freeboard profiles of the two left-most carriers, I'd have to agree that they are Soryu and Hiryu, with Shokaku/Zuikaku bringing up the rear. The heavies do indeed appear to be the four Kongo class of BatDiv3.


For those who think the first two carriers are the Soryu and Hiryu ..... Why are the Islands on different sides of each vessel ? Unless the second one is traveling in the opposite direction to ram the battlewagon ;>

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Because like Akagi (pictured), Hiryu also had her island on the port (left) side of the ship... So she is indeed NOT sailing backwards to ram the battlewagon. [:D]