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Doctrine & ROE for missions
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:16 am
by DWReese
I have some questions about this
The buttons indicate that I can make some choices as to when I can withdraw. One say, when the PRIMARY WEAPON IS (and then you can pick what level the weapon is that will cause you the withdrawal). That's all well and good, but what weapon is determined to be the PRIMARY WEAPON? Is it a specific SSM, or all SSM in general? Or is it a SAM? Or does this really just work with individual ships? I recently shot off every SSM that I had and the TG still didn't withdraw. So, I'm not sure that I am doing something properly.
The same issue exists for establishing the TG's PRIMARY DEFENSE weapon.
Thanks
Doug
RE: Doctrine & ROE for missions
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:01 am
by Rory Noonan
Hi Doug,
I just tested this with an RAN FFG, it withdrew after firing off it's Harpoons (primary weapon), and also in a repeat test withdrew after firing off it's SM-2s (primary defensive weapon)
The 'catch' is that you need to set a base for the Withdraw setting to take effect.
RE: Doctrine & ROE for missions
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:59 am
by DWReese
Thanks again for the response.
My question is: What determines what a primary weapon is? If a ship has Tomahawks and Harpoons, which is the primary weapon? Is there a box, or a pull down menu, that designates or establishes what the "primary" weapon is for a Task Group, or even a specific ship? Or, does the program determine what the "primary weapon" is based on some other criteria? If the mission is anti-ship, then I guess that Harpoons, or such, are listed as the primary weapon. But, if the group is anti-sub, then I would imagine that ASW weapons would be the "primary weapon."
I'd just like to know what method is used to determining the "primary weapon."
Thanks
Doug
RE: Doctrine & ROE for missions
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:30 am
by Dimitris
From the
Manual Addendum:
NOTE #1: The definition of primary attack/defence weapon points to the longest-ranged ASuW weapon (attack) and AAW/ASW (defence) weapon, and uses the default DB-fed values for reference. So for example if an Aegis cruiser is stocked with SM-2s on its DB-pristine version but the scen author opts to clean them out and re-stock with TLAMs and a few ESSMs, the cruiser is considered as “primary defence weapon exhausted” even though it still has the ESSMs.
NOTE #2: The rules for picking the primary attack/defence weapon are slightly different for submarines. Hunter-killer subs (both nuclear and DE) consider torpedoes their primary weapon for both attack and defence even if they carry other longer-ranged weapons (missiles etc.). Cruise- and ballistic-missile subs however, consider their missiles their primary attack weapon.
RE: Doctrine & ROE for missions
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:50 am
by DWReese
Thanks for the detailed response. That really helps.
Doug