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Soviet air base question

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:39 pm
by tomeck48
Soviet air bases are dedicated to certain types of aircraft (fighter, bomber, etc). Do I lose any effectiveness if I put a fighter in a bomber base or vice versa? What about tactical bombers in a fighter base?

RE: Soviet air base question

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:52 pm
by DeletedUser1769703214
ORIGINAL: tomeck48

Soviet air bases are dedicated to certain types of aircraft (fighter, bomber, etc). Do I lose any effectiveness if I put a fighter in a bomber base or vice versa? What about tactical bombers in a fighter base?

I don't know of any loss of effectiveness. I run fighters from Bomber bases and vice versus. If you play into 42 and 43 the computer will rename the base to what is flying out of it. The only difference is that VVS is used to supply partisans. Otherwise it is just an airbase. I pretty much disband everything but IAD, VVS, PVO, BAD, & DBAD. That way those men go into the grunts to pick up a rifle. Again hope a Soviet expert can verify that ;-)

RE: Soviet air base question

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:01 am
by M60A3TTS
ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
I run fighters from Bomber bases and vice versus. If you play into 42 and 43 the computer will rename the base to what is flying out of it.

I've never seen a DBAD base get named IAD no matter how long the game ran. Then again, I usually don't put fighters on bomber bases.

RE: Soviet air base question

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:18 am
by 56ajax
As already stated you need your VVS to supply the Partisans but other wise the name doesn't matter.

Flatten the reporting structure for your airbases, some have intermediary HQs, disband these.

(And for some reason occasionally one squadron on an airbase never flies; it does not appear as a selection on the manual bombing mission)

And bomb the hell out of the enemy and their airfields...

RE: Soviet air base question

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:08 am
by DeletedUser1769703214
ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
I run fighters from Bomber bases and vice versus. If you play into 42 and 43 the computer will rename the base to what is flying out of it.

I've never seen a DBAD base get named IAD no matter how long the game ran. Then again, I usually don't put fighters on bomber bases.

I will keep an eye on it in 42/43 and see if it happens

RE: Soviet air base question

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:51 am
by SparkleyTits
I did not know you need VVS to supply partisans do I also need to use a specific type of aircraft?

RE: Soviet air base question

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:55 am
by Telemecus
ORIGINAL: SparkleyTits

I did not know you need VVS to supply partisans do I also need to use a specific type of aircraft?

The old manual said aircraft with a load capacity over 2000 - but whether that is true in the new updated manual yet to be produced who knows. Realistically that will usually mean the Li-2 transports and the very long range bombers (Il-4s, DB-3s etc.). I think you can supply partisans manually during the Soviet phase, but your opponent can see where you do that. The automatic partisan supply needs you to leave those aircraft with night missions, and the Axis cannot see them in the battle report (anymore!)

RE: Soviet air base question

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:23 pm
by SparkleyTits
Much appreciated buddy

RE: Soviet air base question

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:50 am
by tomeck48
Thanks to all.

RE: Soviet air base question

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:52 pm
by wallas
ORIGINAL: tomeck48

Soviet air bases are dedicated to certain types of aircraft (fighter, bomber, etc). Do I lose any effectiveness if I put a fighter in a bomber base or vice versa? What about tactical bombers in a fighter base?

VVS air bases can never get Gaurd status so I make those my recon, air transport bases.

RE: Soviet air base question

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:58 pm
by Telemecus
ORIGINAL: wallas

ORIGINAL: tomeck48

Soviet air bases are dedicated to certain types of aircraft (fighter, bomber, etc). Do I lose any effectiveness if I put a fighter in a bomber base or vice versa? What about tactical bombers in a fighter base?

VVS air bases can never get Gaurd status so I make those my recon, air transport bases.


I know the rules were changed so recon can now get "victories" for successful recon missions, which builds experience etc. Whether that counts for guards status of airbases etc I would assume so but do not know. If it does it is not completely clear that recon should be relegated to VVS air bases. You may want your transports there though to supply partisans.

RE: Soviet air base question

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:02 pm
by wallas
ORIGINAL: Telemecus

ORIGINAL: wallas

ORIGINAL: tomeck48

Soviet air bases are dedicated to certain types of aircraft (fighter, bomber, etc). Do I lose any effectiveness if I put a fighter in a bomber base or vice versa? What about tactical bombers in a fighter base?

VVS air bases can never get Gaurd status so I make those my recon, air transport bases.


I know the rules were changed so recon can now get "victories" for successful recon missions, which builds experience etc. Whether that counts for guards status of airbases etc I would assume so but do not know. If it does it is not completely clear that recon should be relegated to VVS air bases. You may want your transports there though to supply partisans.

Interesting this 2by3 multi-player game is my first one in like 3 years, maybe I should experiment with vvs bases

RE: Soviet air base question

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:06 pm
by Telemecus
oh worth checking on some of the change notes if it is that long. I think most changes are in ground/logistics - but a few air changes worth checking on

RE: Soviet air base question

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:15 pm
by wallas
ORIGINAL: Telemecus

oh worth checking on some of the change notes if it is that long. I think most changes are in ground/logistics - but a few air changes worth checking on

Yeah there sure has been many changes one thing I cannot seem to get working is para drop. I fired up a test game and did a manual drop selected the aircraft from the window but it would not execute. The test is being done in 1941 and the morale of the para's is like 40-45 and no matter what I do the mission will not execute. Read the rule book like 5 times on this subject can anyone enlighten me on the problem ? According to the book my morale is sufficient in the para brigades.

RE: Soviet air base question

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:19 pm
by Telemecus

RE: Soviet air base question

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:26 pm
by wallas
ORIGINAL: Telemecus

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3a. Scratch behind your left ear three times. I new I was missing something, I will have to try this tonight when I get off work.