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The Browning?

Fred

My money: The humanity. Taking the risk of picking up children and bringing them to safety in a hot zone.

Compelling photo. Okinawa?

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

My money: The humanity. Taking the risk of picking up children and bringing them to safety in a hot zone.

Compelling photo. Okinawa?

Vietnam, CR. Note the M16A2 the infantryman on the right is carrying.

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

My money: The humanity. Taking the risk of picking up children and bringing them to safety in a hot zone.

Compelling photo. Okinawa?

M-16.

You're talking shop to a guy who has no clue.

The Rebel Admiral was on focus as always- apart from the m 16......

But alas, yes, the 30 cal in Vietnam is also intersting spot.

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

My money: The humanity. Taking the risk of picking up children and bringing them to safety in a hot zone.

Compelling photo. Okinawa?

Vietnam, CR. Note the M16A2 the infantryman on the right is carrying.

How can you tell it an A2 version rather than the ordinary first issue?

ORIGINAL: Leandros


The Browning?

Fred

No, the soldier carrying the children has what looks like an M-16. Look at the high front sight.

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

My money: The humanity. Taking the risk of picking up children and bringing them to safety in a hot zone.

Compelling photo. Okinawa?

Vietnam, CR. Note the M16A2 the infantryman on the right is carrying.

How can you tell it an A2 version rather than the ordinary first issue?

[:D] The generic answer is: because this is the AE board and even when I wrote "M-16" I knew someone would also recognize details like 'the tripod nuts on the MG' or 'the number of cross laces on the boots' or ... [:'(] [:D]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

You're talking shop to a guy who has no clue.

The bang bang stick that the soldier on the right is carrying (along with the two children) is similar to the one the soldier in the background and the soldier leaning against the tree has. This appears to be an M16A1 (I think I erroneously identified the rifle as an M16A2 in my previous post). This distinctive combat rifle was not in service at the time of the Second World War when Okinawa was the site of a major fight.

When dating combat pictures, I look for details in the firearms and uniforms of the soldiers involved. That helps me date the time frame that they were likely taken.

There is a discordant note in this image-the inclusion of the bipod M1919A4/6 light machine gun in the lower left frame. These were in widespread service in WWII, post 1943. They were largely supplanted by the M60 in the LMG capacity in Vietnam.

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

My money: The humanity. Taking the risk of picking up children and bringing them to safety in a hot zone.

Compelling photo. Okinawa?

Vietnam, CR. Note the M16A2 the infantryman on the right is carrying.

How can you tell it an A2 version rather than the ordinary first issue?

As you were typing, I corrected myself. [:D]

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

My money: The humanity. Taking the risk of picking up children and bringing them to safety in a hot zone.

Compelling photo. Okinawa?

Vietnam, CR. Note the M16A2 the infantryman on the right is carrying.

How can you tell it an A2 version rather than the ordinary first issue?

But it's not original issue M-16, due to the absence of the hated 'can opener' flash diffusor on the front. I think the M16A1 largely dealt away with that.

If it's Vietnam, it's not an A2. BTW, they all carry M16s. As for the Browning, not often seen with bipod and shoulder stock. Are these Marines?

Fred

ORIGINAL: Leandros

If it's Vietnam, it's not an A2. BTW, they all carry M16s. As for the Browning, not often seen with bipod and shoulder stock. Are these Marines?

Fred

Sorry Fred. This is the AE board. My post 10 seconds before yours corrected my egregious A2/A1 mistake. [:'(]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Leandros

If it's Vietnam, it's not an A2. BTW, they all carry M16s. As for the Browning, not often seen with bipod and shoulder stock. Are these Marines?

Fred

Sorry Fred. This is the AE board. My post 10 seconds before yours corrected my egregious A2/A1 mistake. [:'(]

No problem. The 20-round magazine hints to an early version.

Fred

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy




Vietnam, CR. Note the M16A2 the infantryman on the right is carrying.

How can you tell it an A2 version rather than the ordinary first issue?

But it's not original issue M-16, due to the absence of the hated 'can opener' flash diffusor on the front. I think the M16A1 largely dealt away with that.

I think it's an A-1. A-2 came very late (in fact few troops in Vietnam had it late in the war , and the USMC (except for special guard assignments like the embassy) were gone by then. You can really tell as in both cases the "assist button" (the big button you hit when the @##$% thing jams) is hidden. But you are right about the flash hider. The browning light machine gun was used by the Marines till quite late in the war. I'd say this photo (based upon the uniforms and armor) was relatively early in the war , probably pre-Tet offensive. The USNC always held on to old gear as long as possible. At this point they were still using UH-34's as helos (and used the same browning), had reluctantly given up their beloved M-14's and were just getting the M-60.

And the Browning appear to be a local mod on the bipod. The standard issue wad shorter legged.

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

And the Browning appear to be a local mod on the bipod. The standard issue wad shorter legged.

Actually it was adjustable in height.

Fred

ORIGINAL: Leandros

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

And the Browning appear to be a local mod on the bipod. The standard issue wad shorter legged.

Actually it was adjustable in height.

Fred

In a communications seminar I attended, the instructor emphasized to never say/write "actually" when you are correcting someone. It is like slapping them in the face and saying "You idiot! How could you not know that!".