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Easier to scroll
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:35 pm
by Graybullet
I think it is not easy to scroll eastwards or southwards. Every time I have to find a very narrow region in which I can scroll (especially scrolling eastwards, maybe because of those control panels). I wonder if it is possible to maybe make this region larger. I don't really want to use arrow keys or drag the map (because sometimes I may accidentally click on my own counters so that dragging doesn't work). Thanks!
RE: Easier to scroll
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:39 pm
by zakblood
it not something anyone else has mentioned tbh as yet, so do you mind posting a report to see if there's something in the report which may show up and give us more to go on regarding the issue etc? thanks and sorry for your issues
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RE: Easier to scroll
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:29 pm
by Graybullet
Hi Zakblood,
Thanks for your reply! I just checked the whole forum and I don't think I am the first one that found this problem. I am not allowed to post links yet, but maybe you can look at the posts titled "Full-Screen Option" and "down screen arrow" in the main forum (I think both of them are now on the second page)
Maybe I am too sensitive to this problem, but I just want to see if there is any possibility that the scrolling experience can be further improved.
As for my DxDiag report, it contains many Chinese characters so I am not sure if you can read it. But all the three tabs say that there is no problem.
Thanks!
RE: Easier to scroll
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:43 pm
by budd
I agree the scrolling activating area seems small, especially down with the task bar popping up. I know i can hide it but it makes switching between the manual and game easier if i don't. I just use the mouse left click pull method or the number keys, nice that there's other options.
RE: Easier to scroll
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:50 pm
by Graybullet
I just want to add that the most ideal experience is that when we move our cursor to the edge of the whole screen (not the edge of the window), the map can still scroll.
RE: Easier to scroll
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:57 pm
by Shadrach
Yeah, scrolling with the mouse is really problematic. For instance I have set the Windows taskbar to auto-hide so scrolling down is basically impossible. And no, requiring the user to set the task bar visible before playing is *not* a solution.
On the left I have another monitor, so I have to be really careful not to overshoot. On the top of course, there's the menu and the title bar... So yeah, one of the reasons I wanted WASD controls...
I know for instance the old SPWAW games had an option to set the number of pixels to use for triggering the mouse scrolling, can't seem to find something like this in the options.
RE: Easier to scroll
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:10 pm
by ralphtricky
There are already too many options, I hate to add more, but I may have to. You can also drag the map, use the micromap or jump map to navigate, click on an empty map space and use the arrow keys.[8D]
RE: Easier to scroll
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:24 pm
by Graybullet
I really appreciate your hard work, ralphtrick! I just feel that moving the cursor to the edge might be one the most "natural" ways to scroll the map.
RE: Easier to scroll
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:31 pm
by budd
i don't know guys the left click and grab works pretty well. If you have a mouse with a bunch of buttons and you can map the buttons to keyboard keys, i just programmed my extra mouse buttons to move the map. i actually like it better than edge scrolling.
RE: Easier to scroll
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:34 pm
by rjh1971
Just new to the game, never played TOAW before.
I also found that scrolling southwards is almost imposible no matter how slowly I move the mouse.
What I found it solves the problem is hiding the "info line" panel.
RE: Easier to scroll
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:40 pm
by Graybullet
Thanks for your suggestion, budd!
RE: Easier to scroll
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:45 pm
by Graybullet
Yes, I think it has something to do with bars and panels (info bars and control panels). After I hide them, scrolling becomes much easier. So I tried to hide the info bar and move the control panels on the right a little bit away from the edge. But another problem is that the game will not remember my setting after I shut down the game, so I have to do all the things again next time. I was wondering if an alternative way to solve this problem is to remember our in-game layout.
RE: Easier to scroll
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:48 pm
by ralphtricky
ORIGINAL: Graybullet
Yes, I think it has something to do with bars and panels (info bars and control panels). After I hide them, scrolling becomes much easier. So I tried to hide the info bar and move the control panels on the right a little bit away from the edge. But another problem is that the game will not remember my setting after I shut down the game, so I have to do all the things again next time. I was wondering if an alternative way to solve this problem is to remember our in-game layout.
It will happen sometime, but I need time to do it right. I can see people accidentally moving things and being unable to run the program because of that.
RE: Easier to scroll
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:01 pm
by rjh1971
ORIGINAL: Graybullet
Thanks for your suggestion, budd!
Your welcome [:)]
Ok I found out another way without hiding info panel bar nor windows task bar to move the map downwards, just move your mouse cursor all the way down of your screen and then bring it up to the bottom of the game window, that will start moving the map down.
RE: Easier to scroll
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:42 pm
by Graybullet
Thanks! It really works, although I still hope that maybe we can have a better scrolling experience sometime in the future [:)]