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Why no recon units in the Midway scenario?
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:19 pm
by spinecruncher
Seems like that renders the scenario with a major flaw. How is the Allied player supposed to proceed with any sense of historical accuracy? History aside, how would allies locate the Japanese fleet?
And another thing, completely unrelated but in this scenario I pressed the space key once and I know that removes the units icons from the board; but I cannot get the unit icons back on. Is there another way the unit icons on the board go on /off other than space key? Thank you
RE: Why no recon units in the Midway scenario?
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:26 pm
by Meyer1
Try the I key.
Regarding your first question, sorry, not familiar with that scenario. Check the scenario doc (if there is one) just in case.
RE: Why no recon units in the Midway scenario?
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:28 pm
by spinecruncher
Yeah I can find the units again but I do not understand why no recon in the OOB.
RE: Why no recon units in the Midway scenario?
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:46 pm
by Curtis Lemay
There are two Midway scenarios. Which one are you talking about?
RE: Why no recon units in the Midway scenario?
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:56 pm
by spinecruncher
I am talking about the one with no recon units.... It is called Midway but my game is open right now (another scenario) so I am not sure beyond that.
RE: Why no recon units in the Midway scenario?
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:05 pm
by Curtis Lemay
If you're talking about "Midway 1942", that scenario starts out with the US Carriers' air units set to "A" or "T" deployments. Those deployments automatically do Sea Reconnaissance. The Jap Task Force starts out revealed.
RE: Why no recon units in the Midway scenario?
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:11 pm
by spinecruncher
okay so no recon? Kind of odd given the role recon played in that real life battle.
RE: Why no recon units in the Midway scenario?
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:12 pm
by spinecruncher
Or you are saying there is recon but its already been done by the scenario?
RE: Why no recon units in the Midway scenario?
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:28 pm
by Curtis Lemay
Recon is being done by the carrier air units - due to their deployment modes.
Edit: See 19.7.2 in the manual.
RE: Why no recon units in the Midway scenario?
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:06 pm
by spinecruncher
and what about the other midway scenario?
RE: Why no recon units in the Midway scenario?
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:18 pm
by Phoenix100
I believe, the new Midway scenario - MIdway 42 - starts out, as Curtis Lemay said - with the IJN carriers already located and their position known, so you don't need recon for that. It starts after the IJN attack on Midway island.
RE: Why no recon units in the Midway scenario?
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:41 pm
by Curtis Lemay
ORIGINAL: ballyhoo
and what about the other midway scenario?
That's Operation MI. Thomas Harvey design.
RE: Why no recon units in the Midway scenario?
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:19 pm
by spinecruncher
So both Midway scenarios have no fog a war?
RE: Why no recon units in the Midway scenario?
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:46 pm
by Curtis Lemay
ORIGINAL: ballyhoo
So both Midway scenarios have no fog a war?
All scenarios have fog-of-war if the player turns it on.
In my "Midway 1942" scenario (I don't know about Operation MI), the Jap Task Force is revealed by the US carrier air units. They do sea recon, revealing the Jap Task Force.
RE: Why no recon units in the Midway scenario?
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:53 am
by ralphtricky
ORIGINAL: ballyhoo
Seems like that renders the scenario with a major flaw. How is the Allied player supposed to proceed with any sense of historical accuracy? History aside, how would allies locate the Japanese fleet?
And another thing, completely unrelated but in this scenario I pressed the space key once and I know that removes the units icons from the board; but I cannot get the unit icons back on. Is there another way the unit icons on the board go on /off other than space key? Thank you
Space bar should toggle the unit visibility on and off.