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VP total - GW
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:37 am
by jboldt007
Ok so finished first GW game (well previous one was just a training game) and here is score based on RAW 24.1.2, using the average scores from the table.
Germany: +5
Italy: +4
Japan: +4
Vichy: +3
China -1
CW: -2
Free France: -1
US: -8
USSR: -5
Clearly an axis win, despite the fact that Germany botched Barbarossa and Japan was nearly routed in China, and in 1945 the axis empires were crumbling - but too little too late. Clearly the allies have their work cut out for them. In this game I’m guessing they were too timid too early.
RE: VP total - GW
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:48 am
by paulderynck
A normal Allied win is typically at least Italy incompletely conquered and either Japan or Germany conquered with the survivor having less than 10 objectives.
RE: VP total - GW
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:42 pm
by jboldt007
Italy should have been conquered in this game - misjudged how Vichy works... the eastern front was collapsing and Japan was
In peril although it’s navy had pulled off some major upsets. Denmark had been liberated and Copenhagen set up. But it was all too late.
RE: VP total - GW
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:46 pm
by jboldt007
Btw it seems tough for the US to break even based on 24.1.2. Liberated France would go to Free France I presume. Some of the Pacific objectives would just be bypassed as they were historically...
RE: VP total - GW
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:54 pm
by Orm
If you use bidding then bid low for US if you think it tough for them to reach the "Expected Total".
RE: VP total - GW
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:02 pm
by jboldt007
Right - playing solitaire it was more about hitting typical targets in 24.1.2 to judge how well
One is playing a particular nation
RE: VP total - GW
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:08 pm
by Orm
Yes. I got that.
RE: VP total - GW
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:09 pm
by Orm
Could you post a picture showing which nation held which of the final victory points?
RE: VP total - GW
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:27 pm
by Dabrion
US is breaking even with the Americas, Italy and the Pacific.
RE: VP total - GW
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:07 pm
by brian brian
If the USA liberates Paris, they are awarded the objectives held by Free France, iirc?
RE: VP total - GW
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:40 pm
by Dabrion
I don't think that is accurate. Vichy objectives will count towards the installing major power, maybe you mixed that up?
RE: VP total - GW
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:17 am
by Centuur
ORIGINAL: Dabrion
I don't think that is accurate. Vichy objectives will count towards the installing major power, maybe you mixed that up?
If France gets liberated, Vichy France doesn't exist anymore. All territory held by Vichy France becomes controlled by the French.
RE: VP total - GW
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:35 am
by Dabrion
Sure, but if Vichy should exist at game end, the Vichy objective (Marseilles and Dakar perhaps) count for the installing power (Germany). But the liberated French objectives count for France (usually played with the US .. so that should be the same tally anyways)