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Hi, I have 2 questions about scenarios:

1- Could you please recommend some small size scenario suitable for a newbie in the TOAW series ? (any time period)

2- Each time I launch a scenario, I have a warning telling me that the scenario was initially built for the previous version of the game. Why is it important ? Where can I find the scenarios that were designed for TOAW4 ?

Thx

ORIGINAL: nukkxx

Hi, I have 2 questions about scenarios:

1- Could you please recommend some small size scenario suitable for a newbie in the TOAW series ? (any time period)

2- Each time I launch a scenario, I have a warning telling me that the scenario was initially built for the previous version of the game. Why is it important ? Where can I find the scenarios that were designed for TOAW4 ?

Thx

1) Bataille d'Arracourt
2) Ignore the warning, most if not all scenarios are updated or in the process of being updated... Remember, there are 600(!!!)+ scenarios available - see http://www.alternatewars.com/Games/TOAW/TOAW.htm

Klink, Oberst

Remember, there are 600(!!!)+ scenarios available

Who was hiding key information from me ?!
Seriously, I didn't know that ! This is the great news of the day !

Thanks.

ORIGINAL: nukkxx

Remember, there are 600(!!!)+ scenarios available

Who was hiding key information from me ?!
Seriously, I didn't know that ! This is the great news of the day !

Thanks.

Now keep in mind some are TOAW I, II, ACOW, III... so, go figure. So, when is my map ready then?

Klink, Oberst

Isthis the one I should download ?

TOAW III Legacy Pack, Volumes 1 to 42 (32.6 MB ZIP)

Yeah ! Arracourt is cool. Small size scenarios are perfect. Thanks. If there are any other small size scens you guys can recommend, I'm interested.

I just started recently too...

Try The Marne 1914 if you fancy some WW1 stuff.

12 turns or so....I am playing a quick MP game of it at the minute...interesting contrast with WW2

ORIGINAL: nukkxx

Yeah ! Arracourt is cool. Small size scenarios are perfect. Thanks. If there are any other small size scens you guys can recommend, I'm interested.

While we're havin' it about your country... Dien-Bien Phu perhaps?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXRFNf8nXK0

Klink, Oberst

ORIGINAL: nukkxx

Isthis the one I should download ?

TOAW III Legacy Pack, Volumes 1 to 42 (32.6 MB ZIP)

Remember... you have to adjust them if you want to play'em properly. Keywords are AD, MRPB and other things.

Klink, Oberst

"you have to adjust them if you want to play'em properly. Keywords are AD, MRPB and other things."
[&:] [&:] [&:]
Oops, can't understand a single word , sorry ... could you repeat in plain English ?

What do you mean by "adjust" ?
What are AD, MRPB
What other things ?

Sorry to be a pain ... [8|]

ORIGINAL: nukkxx

"you have to adjust them if you want to play'em properly. Keywords are AD, MRPB and other things."
[&:] [&:] [&:]
Oops, can't understand a single word , sorry ... could you repeat in plain English ?

What do you mean by "adjust" ?
What are AD, MRPB
What other things ?

Sorry to be a pain ... [8|]

If you are a newcomer, for now I'd stick with the scenarios already in TOAWIV. It's plenty, and you don't have to deal with the above acronyms

The warning you see for some scenarios about having been made for earlier versions of the game is about the map specifically.

You see, TOAWIV has new map tile graphics, so while maps do display the exact terrain types as in old TOAWs, small details may differ, which sometimes ends up with a hex or two looking a bit weird. Like a forest hex meeting a plains hex with an unnatural edge. That kind of thing. It does not affect gameplay at all.

Yeah, makes sense. Will play the above recommended scenarios and later explore the other scenarios coming with the game, that's already quite a lot.
I agree I don't need extras yet.
Thx

ORIGINAL: nukkxx
"you have to adjust them if you want to play'em properly. Keywords are AD, MRPB and other things."
Oops, can't understand a single word , sorry ... could you repeat in plain English ?

I don't remember all the acronyms but I'll give it a try for you.

ORIGINAL: nukkxx
What do you mean by "adjust" ?

You're going to have to go into the editor and load the scenario and change the
values of the variables, AD, MRPB, supply range ( event ), etc.

ORIGINAL: nukkxx
What are AD, MRPB

I think AD is the Attrition Divider wherein you determine how bloody the combats are.
MRPB is Max Rounds Per Battle and a sane value for that is about 3 rounds.

ORIGINAL: nukkxx
What other things ?

You might need to give one side or the other, perhaps both, a bigger supply range by
changing the event that determines that ( boost the value higher ) or perhaps write
a new event to do that function.

ORIGINAL: nukkxx
Sorry to be a pain...

You're not a pain. Your handle reminds me of Duke Nukem. Remember that game?

Thanks Larry for explaining it... it's kinda late here and I am still waiting for a map making guru to proceed with Tutorial '50s

As for our friend in France - here's the stuff Bob, Steve, me and others shared about the AD back in the TOAW III days...

tm.asp?m=3045873

Klink, Oberst

ORIGINAL: Tamas

ORIGINAL: nukkxx

"you have to adjust them if you want to play'em properly. Keywords are AD, MRPB and other things."
[&:] [&:] [&:]
Oops, can't understand a single word , sorry ... could you repeat in plain English ?

What do you mean by "adjust" ?
What are AD, MRPB
What other things ?

Sorry to be a pain ... [8|]

If you are a newcomer, for now I'd stick with the scenarios already in TOAWIV. It's plenty, and you don't have to deal with the above acronyms

The warning you see for some scenarios about having been made for earlier versions of the game is about the map specifically.

You see, TOAWIV has new map tile graphics, so while maps do display the exact terrain types as in old TOAWs, small details may differ, which sometimes ends up with a hex or two looking a bit weird. Like a forest hex meeting a plains hex with an unnatural edge. That kind of thing. It does not affect gameplay at all.

Do I understand this to mean that the scenarios that are packaged with TOAW IV have been checked and/or adjusted to TOAW IV so that it isn't necessary to make edits described above?.

Thanks
Rick

Thanks Larry for these explanations ! I'm not ready yet to play with the editor but I surely will at some point in the future ...
Duke Nukem ? Sure I remember A good 20 years ago !

One more question about scenarios (the ones that come with TOAW4): Can I consider they are balanced or is there a preferred side when playing against the AI ? What about when playing PBEM ? Or as often the answer is: "it depends" ?

ORIGINAL: nukkxx

Thanks Larry for these explanations ! I'm not ready yet to play with the editor but I surely will at some point in the future ...
Duke Nukem ? Sure I remember A good 20 years ago !

One more question about scenarios (the ones that come with TOAW4): Can I consider they are balanced or is there a preferred side when playing against the AI ? What about when playing PBEM ? Or as often the answer is: "it depends" ?

The updated scenarios, as well as most of the older ones, specify what play type it recommends.

Klink, Oberst

ORIGINAL: rickier65

ORIGINAL: Tamas

ORIGINAL: nukkxx

"you have to adjust them if you want to play'em properly. Keywords are AD, MRPB and other things."
[&:] [&:] [&:]
Oops, can't understand a single word , sorry ... could you repeat in plain English ?

What do you mean by "adjust" ?
What are AD, MRPB
What other things ?

Sorry to be a pain ... [8|]

If you are a newcomer, for now I'd stick with the scenarios already in TOAWIV. It's plenty, and you don't have to deal with the above acronyms

The warning you see for some scenarios about having been made for earlier versions of the game is about the map specifically.

You see, TOAWIV has new map tile graphics, so while maps do display the exact terrain types as in old TOAWs, small details may differ, which sometimes ends up with a hex or two looking a bit weird. Like a forest hex meeting a plains hex with an unnatural edge. That kind of thing. It does not affect gameplay at all.

Do I understand this to mean that the scenarios that are packaged with TOAW IV have been checked and/or adjusted to TOAW IV so that it isn't necessary to make edits described above?.

Thanks
Rick

Yes. If you find a scenario among them that gives you an error message (concerning a wrong eqp file) do let us know.