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VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:04 pm
by HardLuckYetAgain
This is the 2nd game between M60 and myself, the previous game having ended on turn 9. I have no "Illusions of Grandeur" that this game is going to be anywhere close to the same as the previous game. M60 is a formidable opponent and I am both looking forward to the match and dreading it at the same time.

Here is the setup at the moment for the match;

* Bitter End - M60 wants to play the Bitter End campaign and it is fine by me but the sudden death rules will still be in place if I by chance am able to achieve such a feat. Automatic Victory condition that any time in 1941 that the German control Leningrad, Moscow, Rostov, and Vorzonezh the game immediately ends in German Victory

* Better CV M60 snuck this one in too. I don't like it but /shrug

* No Random weather

* No Para's

* No naval invasions until 42 and none past Sevstapol if German Occupied

* Full Blizzard

* Patch Version 1.11.01 . (On edit corrected this to the correct patch version)

RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:12 pm
by STEF78
I will follow this AAR!

No +1 I suppose?


RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:15 pm
by smokindave34
Did you agree to the house rule concerning leader changes? I thought this was a very interesting proposal.

Good luck to both - should be an excellent matchup!

RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:18 pm
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: smokindave34

Did you agree to the house rule concerning leader changes? I thought this was a very interesting proposal.

Good luck to both - should be an excellent matchup!

No we didn't. Just went with a straight up game. I have a plethora of ideas but they normally never hit the track running ;(

RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:19 pm
by HardLuckYetAgain
Will be a little bit for substance in the thread. First gotta get my old grey matter working as a German again. Been over 6 months since I set foot on this side of the fence and getting electrical input to old brain cells is tedious. So I will be practicing my opening & pulling out my notebook with my plethora of notes in it. Not to mention there will be a delay in my postings otherwise I might end up in one of those SS Death Camps.... (Oh crap did I say that out loud) I mean I might end up in one of those holiday spas for relocated people of Europe.

RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:21 pm
by lastkozak
Intriguing indeed! Thought you preferred Soviets Hardluck?

RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:33 pm
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: lastkozak

Intriguing indeed! Thought you preferred Soviets Hardluck?

I have dabbled with the Soviets off and on for the past year and half (like less than 25 GC games overall in my career of WITE 1.0). I have played the Germans the most & am pretty familiar with them. I'm not that good of a German player but I can get the job done.

RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:34 pm
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

ORIGINAL: lastkozak

Intriguing indeed! Thought you preferred Soviets Hardluck?

I have dabbled with the Soviets off and on for the past year and half (like less than 25 GC games overall in my career of WITE 1.0). I have played the Germans the most & am pretty familiar with them. I'm not that good of a German player but I can get the job done.

So something like 95% of my games have been as Germany if that gives you an idea LastKozak :)

RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:46 pm
by Telemecus
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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
I'm not that good of a German player but I can get the job done.

Is that like Usain Bolt is not a very good runner?

RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:06 pm
by Stelteck
ORIGINAL: Telemecus

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain
I'm not that good of a German player but I can get the job done.

Is that like Usain Bolt is not a very good runner?

[&o][&o][&o][:D]

RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:09 pm
by STEF78
ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

.../... I'm not that good of a German player but I can get the job done.
If you're not that good, I'm an absolute beginner [:D][:D]

RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:24 pm
by lastkozak
But Hardluck knows something we do not. He knows who he played, how good they were, and how much of his success was due to exploiting a mistake made by his opponent.

That all said, modesty is the best counter intelligence!

If I thought somebody was not a great player, I would probably take more chances, or rush through the turn more often than not. But if it were a good player, I would be making a grave mistake with that approach.

RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:31 pm
by SparkleyTits
Good luck!

RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:55 pm
by ericv
Good luck and have fun!

RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:57 pm
by HardLuckYetAgain
So it begins I normally PM/email my opponent the 1st casualty of the war when playing Germany. But since there is an AAR I will post it here. Normally I shoot down a Soviet but this time that is not the case. The first casualty is a Rumanian. BAD OMEN! This does not bode well, time to get out the chicken bones and voodoo to reverse this bad luck.

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RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:16 am
by ledo
I don't know if this can be maintained. At the rate you're losing recon planes you're going to have a serious shortage within weeks, even with the plentiful supply Germany has. I mean I'm doing a bit of extrapolation here, but I'd say Soviet victory early 1943.

RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:23 am
by HardLuckYetAgain
ORIGINAL: ledo

I don't know if this can be maintained. At the rate you're losing recon planes you're going to have a serious shortage within weeks, even with the plentiful supply Germany has. I mean I'm doing a bit of extrapolation here, but I'd say Soviet victory early 1943.

Soviets WIN!!!! Thats it, game over!!!

RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:27 am
by HardLuckYetAgain
Rumanian front Air loses so far. Rumanian Tact bombers sux monkey ballz now :(..... Was able to just barely squeeze out over 1k kills on this front :( It is what it is, darn Ghosts in the machine.

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RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:30 am
by HardLuckYetAgain
Whelp, now on to the Southern front. Don't know how much of this I'm getting done tonight since I have to be extremely careful on my moves. Why? Well you will just have to wait and I will show you why :-)

RE: VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!!! (War of Extermination) HLYA (AXIS) vs M60 (Soviet) (M60 welcome)

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:35 am
by HardLuckYetAgain
Oh, before I forget it. I mentioned above about not liking better CV value. It makes my life a great deal easier. Yes, I said easier. I would advise against it but M60 wanted it.