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Quick dumb question

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:29 pm
by panzerwilly2
Hi, in the scenario Deter, Detect, and Defend (CF-105 version). When I try to plot a course for an air unit in BC air space, it always seems to want to route way south around the ABZ barrier that you can't fly west or north of and then all the way back in again. Is it best to just set up an air patrol mission inside the barrier and not plot any courses? I think I'm missing something obvious somehow.

RE: Quick dumb question

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:47 pm
by thewood1
Might be helpful to post a save. It could be any number of things going on.

If you can't post a save, a little more detail might help.

RE: Quick dumb question

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:54 pm
by thewood1
I just looked at the sceanrio. Path plotting can have issues now and then with weirdly shaped no nav zones.

This is why a save is important. I have no idea where the CF-105 started from and where you are sending it.

RE: Quick dumb question

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:59 pm
by thewood1
I just launched a couple CF-105s and had them go all over the place. No issues. Are you using 1.14?

RE: Quick dumb question

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:39 am
by panzerwilly2
Unfortunately when I try to attach the save it says file not supported. Something about C/fakepath too. I have version 1.14 build 998.4. When I launch the pair of CF-105's from Comox and set them a path into north central BC. they track ok for a while, but then the path changes and detours south of the no fly barrier and back in again.

RE: Quick dumb question

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:55 am
by thewood1
It has to be a zip.

That description isn't helpful. How close to the no nav zone, speed, etc.? The save will help.

RE: Quick dumb question

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:53 am
by Randomizer
I wrote the scenario so can maybe provide some help once you provide a save. Trying it in the latest build and launching the alert Arrows at Comox seemed to work as intended so looking forward to reproducing what you're seeing.

-C

RE: Quick dumb question

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:44 pm
by panzerwilly2
OK guys I've attached the game file in a zip. :-) Thanks for all the help!

RE: Quick dumb question

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:28 pm
by Randomizer
ORIGINAL: panzerwilly2

OK guys I've attached the game file in a zip. :-) Thanks for all the help!
The Arrows are part of a CAP mission that you created and are engaged offensive so they are prioritizing their mission over your inputs. Remove them from the mission (unassign using "U") and you can give them orders using F3 to fly anywhere up to the NORAD Region 25 no-fly boundary.

Units on CAP, particularly very large patrol areas like you have created here can sometimes act as you're seeing when confronted with unknown targets outside of their patrol area. Your NORAD CAP mission is set up to investigate contacts outside the patrol area but the unknown contacts are all west of the NORAD no-fly boundary that they cannot enter. These conflicting requirements is probably causing the behaviour that you're seeing.

Smaller CAP patrol areas coupled with suitable prosecution zones are often superior to large, deep patrol zones that can disperse your assets.

Hope that you enjoy the scenario.

-C

RE: Quick dumb question

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:19 pm
by panzerwilly2
Oh yes ... I see that now! Thanks for the help. Easy to learn the mechanics of the game, but a lot of things to consider. Thanks Wood and Randomizer!