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Harpoon Classic & others DOS versions
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 1:35 pm
by britten
I'm in a sentimental mood lately so I would like to play the Dos Harpoon Classic from 90s era. I know it's been included in Ultimate Edition super-pack (which I should finally get soon). I wonder, does 1.5 version, available in the box, require installed DosBox to play (so only game files are included) or all those games are already prepared to run on modern comupters?
RE: 1989 DOS version
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 2:01 pm
by stilesw
britten,
Since Windows 7 the old DOSBox version 0.74 has not been reliable. However, with Windows 10, I've had good success with some of the DOSBox versions referenced here:
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp ... MW1wcKkGXA
To my knowledge, DOSBox is probably the best way to run the original Harpoon versions on current systems.
Of course if you only have origianl 5.25" floppy disks (or even 3.5" FDDS) you may have a problem using them unless you have an older PC with one of those floppy disk drives networked. That's how I am still able to run some of the old MicroProse games. The graphics are not stellar though.
-Wayne Stiles
RE: 1989 DOS version
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 4:19 pm
by TonyE
Thank you Wayne, I was struggling to fully understand the question. Britten, you have no way out of the box of running WinHarp 1.62B GE nor SEs from 1.62B thru HC Gold 2003.16b3 since they are 16-bit Windows applications (assuming you are running a 64-bit version of Windows).
I don't dig out the old versions often but a quick attempt with the DOSBox bundled (0.73) runs fine here with Harpoon 1.58E GE (Game Engine) on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit.
The Ultimate Edition installer puts the game files on your drive as well as DOSBox so if you have a machine that can run the old DOS builds natively, the files are available to you. If you happen to have Windows 10 32-bit I imagine you can probably run them directly with that, for 64-bit Windows 10 you need some manner of virtual machine such as DOSBox.
Wayne, what does "not been reliable" mean for you in terms of these games?
You all want to play the current build anyway right?
http://harpgamer.com/harpforum/index.ph ... ent-files/
RE: 1989 DOS version
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 4:46 pm
by britten
ORIGINAL: TonyE
The Ultimate Edition installer puts the game files on your drive as well as DOSBox...
Thank you and sorry for creating confusion. I think that quoted text answers my question which was - do I have to install and configure DosBox manually to run Harpoon Classic 94' from Ultimate Edition or maybe the HC94' version already comes with configured DosBox instance?
I use 64-bit Windows 7.
RE: 1989 DOS version
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 4:54 pm
by TonyE
I'm understanding better now, thanks!
DOSBox 0.73 comes configured as part of the Ultimate Edition package.
I wrote a launcher program HC20Run.exe that looks like the attached.

RE: 1989 DOS version
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 4:57 pm
by TonyE
You click on the version you want to run and it shows a sub-menu of components you may be able to run on your computer.
(note PE, OW, SC are greyed out, in this case meaning they didn't exist for that version, in other cases it will mean your computer just can't run them).

RE: 1989 DOS version
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 5:00 pm
by TonyE
Clicking on the component, such as 1.58E Game Engine in this case will launch DOSBox right into the game with what may or may not be reasonable defaults for your setup. If they aren't reasonable, let us know and we'll help. Often it is changing settings to get a more optimal resolution.

RE: 1989 DOS version
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 5:16 pm
by stilesw
Wayne, what does "not been reliable" mean for you in terms of these games?
Tony,
Actually, for Windows 10, I should have said "not at all" for the original version 0.74 DosBox located at
https://www.dosbox.com/download.php?main=1.
That's why I referenced the "SVN" implementations for which there are many sites available.
-Wayne
RE: 1989 DOS version
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 5:41 pm
by britten
TonyE -

for excellent help! [&o]
Now I just need to wait a few days for my paycheque so I'll be able to fire Harpoon once again...after more than 20 years!
RE: 1989 DOS version
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 5:45 pm
by TonyE
ORIGINAL: britten
TonyE -

for excellent help! [&o]
Now I just need to wait a few days for my paycheque so I'll be able to fire Harpoon once again...after more than 20 years!
Hehe, looking forward to hearing about your exploits. If you don't need to edit scenarios right away or modify the database you can give the demo a try,
http://harpgamer.com/harpforum/index.ph ... available/
There is enough gameplay there to keep you busy for quite a while.
RE: 1989 DOS version
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 5:57 pm
by stilesw
Tony,
I found and downloaded your launcher program sometime ago. Good work.
-Wayne